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In what text is Plato's Socrates depicted as complaining about his
students being dimwitted? It doesn't sound like him.
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Nancy Patterson wrote:
> What research is this statistic based on? And how is "working vocabulary"
> defined? How was the research conducted?
>
> How did researches determine what a "working vocabulary" was 50 years ago,
> and which population of 14 year olds did they look at? Middle class white?
> Working class white? Working class blacks? A large number of 14 year olds
> dropped out of school 50 years ago to work the family farm. And compulsory
> education laws were not in effect in many southern states 50 years ago.
>
> Could this be just another instance of the older generation thinking the
> younger generation is going to hell in a handbasket? Seems to me
> Plato/Socrates complained about his students being dimwitted and unable to
> express themselves. And could this be a case of not privileging or
> acknowledging new additions to the 14 year old's lexicon that displace some
> of the more staid expressions of a previous generation?
>
> Nancy
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>
> At 06:15 PM 2/1/01 -0600, you wrote:
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> >David Orr, "Verbicide"
> >American Educator,
> >Winter 2000-2001
> >p. 26
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> >"In the past fifty years...the working vocabulary of the average 14 year
> old has declined from some 25,000 words to 10,000 word."
> ><HTML><BODY STYLE="font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV><BR>David Orr,
> "Verbicide"<BR><U>American</U> <U>Educator</U>,</DIV> <DIV>Winter
> 2000-2001</DIV> <DIV>p. 26</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"In the past fifty
> years...the working vocabulary of the average 14 year old has declined from
> some 25,000 words to 10,000 word."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> Nancy G. Patterson
> Portland Middle School, English Dept. Chair
> Portland, MI 48875
>
> "The text is a tissue of quotations drawn from the innumberable centers of
> culture."
> --Roland Barthes
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