Gretchen,
I understand your questions, but I believe the point is that if we don't
engage elementary, middle school, high school, and post-secondary eductors,
all levels, in this very large discussion, we won't clearly see the entire
forest -- just one or two clumps of trees. The problem of WHICH grammar to
teach seems to be unheard of by most pre-college teachers. Sure some of us
"talk it up" at NCTE and elsewhere, but we are a very small minority.
Usually, if I even mention the teaching of grammar to my fellow English
teachers, I get strange looks and comments like, "Don't you know about the
research that shows that teaching grammar doesn't work?" This common
question is disarming and can drag one down a slippery slope that is nearly
impossible to climb up from.
Sound familiar?
Nothing will change, I strongly believe, unless we raise consciousnesses on
all levels. I'm simply saying, let's get the people involved in the
argument(s) before we worry about giving them answers. Maybe they can help
us find some of the answers we seek.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: Gretchen Lee <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: recruiting the early educators
> In a message dated 11/30/2000 7:41:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:<< How do we recruit elementary school teachers
into
> ATEG? >>
>
> Paul,
>
> Please don't misunderstand what I'm about to say, and I do realize that
this
> list serv is not ATEG, but what will you do with them once you get them?
>
> You do have middle school and (at least one that I know of) elementary
school
> teachers as lurkers on this list. When I asked for help this summer in
> figuring out how to implement grammar in the classroom, six or seven other
> lower grade teachers who "lurk" contacted me off list to say that they
were
> as confused as I.
>
> What do you need us for? How can we help? I belong to NCTE and have
> presented several times. Do you need ATEG talked up on the list? What do
I
> tell them about what/which/whose grammar to teach? (BTW, NCTE has many
lists
> from elementary through middle to college. NCTE-talk is aimed at high
school
> teachers, although much of what comes through is applicable to middle
school
> classes.)
>
> Thanks,
> Gretchen in San Jose
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