Thanks for expanding on my over-simplification, Bruce.

On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 08:19:15 -0700
  Bruce Despain <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Steve, 
> 
> I agree with David.  But the process viewpoint of deep 
>structure may be
> helpful.  It is of some interest that "colored" is an 
>adjective built from a
> verb and called a participle.  The -ly on "brightly" is 
>normally a formative for
> making a manner adverb so that there seems to be a 
>covert relation to the verb
> phrase "color in a bright manner," but this is 
>deceptive.  
> 
> The names for the various colors in English are 
>structured as nouns.  But they
> often appear as attributes: "the dress is red" instead 
>of "the dress is of red."
> When we say "bright red" we are describing a noun with 
>an adjective, but the
> phrase again appears as an attribute: "the dress is 
>bright red" instead of "the
> dress is of bright red."  (This is a predicate adjective 
>rather than a predicate
> noun, which would imply equivalence.)
> 
> I belive that the locution "the bright colored dress" is 
>saying that the dress
> is bright and that it is colored, and that it is not 
>necessarily the brightness
> of the colors that make it so.  In fact we could be 
>asking for two conflicting
> attributes here; that the dress be colored, but also 
>bright.  (A dress that is
> bright red might fill both requirements.)
> 
> The dress could be "colored red."   This construction is 
>often called an
> objective complement: "someone colored the dress red." 
> It is possible to extend
> this construction to: "someone colored the dress bright 
>red."  There might be a
> blending with another objective complement: "someone 
>colored the dress bright." 
> But the manner interpretation does not really seem 
>possible: ??"someone colored
> the dress brightly."  I believe the -ly does not form a 
>manner adverb here, but
> comes from the adverbalization of "bright" (was 
>objective complement) in
> conjunction with the adjectivalization of the verb 
>"color" to its participle
> form.  
> 
> Bruce 
> 
>>>> [log in to unmask] 11/3/2005 7:24:34 AM >>>
> 
> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:12:31 +0900
>  Steve Cornwell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> This may be a very simple question for this list, but a 
>>student asked me why we can 
>> use "brightly" before "color" as in "the brightly 
>>colored dress," but we use "bright" before "red" as in 
>>"the bright red dress."  We cannot/do not normally say 
>>the "brightly red dress."
>> 
>> Any insights will be appreciated.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> 
>> steve c.
> 
> In my opinion, Steve, "brightly" is an adverb modifying 
> "colored," and "bright" is an adjective modifying "red.
> 
> Peace,
> 
> David Brown
> ESL/EFL Teacher
> Long Beach, CA
> USA
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