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Re: ATEG Digest - 3 Oct 2015 to 4 Oct 2015 (#2015-53)
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Scott Catledge <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 6 Oct 2015 02:31:33 +0000
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I concur and would diagran the sentence thusly.
Scott Catledge
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>   1. grammar question "agreed" + clause
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> Date:    Mon, 5 Oct 2015 03:18:14 +0000
> From:    GERALD W WALTON <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: grammar question "agreed" + clause
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>     I believe what she said. I believe that she said it.
>     To me, the fact that "that she said it" can fit in the same slot as "what she said" is strong motivation for declaring it a direct object. I know "that" is a complementizer (and an optional element), but I'm not sure why the boundary for what gets accepted as direct object can't be wide enough to include it. 
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> Regardless of the approaches we take, we have to have some kind of terminology:
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> "I" serves as a subject, a pronoun, an NP
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> "Believe" is a verb
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> "She said what" and "she said it" are clauses that are complements of the verb "believe" (VP)
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> In the second case "that" serves only as a word that introduces the noun clause
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> Yes, of course Direct Object is a meaningful term.
> Gerald
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