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"Paul E. Doniger" <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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I'm sorry, but isn't "could" required because of "would" (not "can" because
if "is")? This is clealy conditional to me. I think I would trip over myself
if I used (or heard/read) "can" in this context.

Paul E. Doniger
The Gilbert School

----- Original Message -----
From: Herb Stahlke <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: Verb form of if-subjunctive


> Joanna,
>
> I find it grammatical.  The context for "can" is established by
> the "is" of the first clause.  Of course, I may have been
> influenced by Liz Riddle, our resident expert on sequence of
> tenses.  I suspect that in this case, as Liz has shown in her
> work, choice of form is pragmatically conditioned, not
> grammatically.
>
> But I haven't been following this thread, and so I may have
> repeated what everyone else has already said.
>
> Herb
>
> >>> [log in to unmask] 09/19/00 12:01PM >>>
>  "(1)The little child is lonely; he would be happier if he had
> someone that
> he can play with."
>
> Do any of the native speakers on this list find this sentence
> grammatical? I can't imagine this being acceptable to anyone, but
> maybe
> I'm wrong. The 'that' clause requires 'could'.
>
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