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"Wollin, Edith" <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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Thanks, Bill. I suspected this might be it, but wasn't sure.
Edith

-----Original Message-----
From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Spruiell, William C
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:00 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: training wheels & ain't

Edith,

There's an alternate source of /h/ in words like this a number of
dialects -- it's a side effect of English "losing" /h/ on other words.
Speakers feel that they're supposed to say some /h/s on words they
aren't, and they overcompensate and put them in where they never were
(the same thing happens with /r/ on the east coast; those people who
pronounce 'car' as roughly /ka/ also tend to pronounce 'Africa' as
"Afriker"). I have a friend from Australia who inserts the occasional
/h/ this way. I'd have to do some digging to find out what's going on
with the Ohio dialect, but as an initial guess, I'd suspect
overcompensation. 

Sincerely,

Bill Spruiell


-----Original Message-----
From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar on behalf of Wollin,
Edith
Sent: Wed 6/3/2009 10:44 AM
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Subject: Re: training wheels & ain't
 
I've been wondering if there is any connection between the "ain't" for
"have" and the dialect that uses "hain't."  My father-in-law from Ohio
used to say "hain't."

Anybody know?

Edith Wollin

 

From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dick Veit
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:07 AM
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Subject: Re: training wheels & ain't

 

I'd do it but I ain't got the time.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Larry Beason <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

Herb,
Can you give examples of people who use 'ain't' for a contraction of
'has/have not.'  I might not be thinking it through, but I cannot think
of any such instances myself.

Just curious.

Larry

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