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Reinhold Schlieper <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:52:16 -0400
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Did none of your students ever speculate that you might indulge in
polyandric relationships? <grin>

==Reinhold

Martha Kolln wrote:
>
> The restictive/nonrestrictive example I used in my classes was
>
>         My husband, John, is a farmer.
>         My son John is a student.
>
> I would ask my students why I punctuated them differently; and I would ask
> what they knew about the size of my family.  It's also a lesson about
> intonation.  The first has three intonation contours; the second, only one.
>
> Martha Kolln
>
> >Bruce,
> >
> >I'm afraid I must disagree with your #1 comment below. Whether the
> >appositive is one word or more than one word is not the issue. The issue is
> >whether the appositive is necessary. My usual way to teach this is to ask
> >who has one brother (or sister) and who has more than one. I then write out
> >the two variations:
> >
> >My brother Charlie lives in Chicago.
> >My brother, Charlie, lives in Chicago.
> >
> >One of the best examples I know of is this: Beethoven's opera, Fidelio, is
> >magnificent.
> >
> >(Why can't I do italics in Outlook Express???)
> >
> >
> >--
> >Keeper of the memory and method of Francis Christensen.
> >WriteforCollege.com
> >The Stewart English Program (epsbooks.com)
> >> From: Bruce Despain <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Reply-To: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
> >> <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:05:40 -0600
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: A simple question?
> >>
> >> Jennifer,
> >>
> >> 1) The commas aren't needed with single word appositives:  "My sister Alice
> >> was beautiful."
> >> 2) Quotes inside quotes are ranked.  Usually we have  a single quote mark if
> >> we are quoting the material around it with double quote marks.
> >> 3) I have seen where a linguist, who uses the single quote marks to speak of
> >>a
> >> word, per se, will keep the mark within the comma.  Normally the mark will
> >> include the comma, especially where multiple words are involved.  Scientists,
> >> who tend to be more logical, often resist custom and insist on following
> >>logic
> >> in this regard.
> >>
> >> Bruce
> >>
> >>>>> [log in to unmask] 07/26/01 01:42PM >>>
> >> Hello one and all,
> >>
> >> I have a question.  Is the placement of commas inside the quotation marks
> >> correct in this sentence:  "The sculpture,"Discus Thrower," was beautiful to
> >> behold."  That is, are commas always inside quotations?
> >>
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