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"Stahlke, Herbert F.W." <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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Christine,

Try this site:

http://www.utexas.edu/cola/centers/lrc/books/readT.html

Herb

-----Original Message-----
From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar on behalf of Christine Gray
Sent: Fri 9/15/2006 8:44 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Textbook for My History of the English Language Course
 
Herb, I'm looking for the web site you mention at Texas.

Do you know which campus?  That seems to matter in searching for PIE works.

Thank you,

Christine Gray 

-----Original Message-----
From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stahlke, Herbert F.W.
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 9:28 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Textbook for My History of the English Language Course

I prefer Jacques Cousteau as the Glottalic Series.  As long as we're on
Indo-European, WP Lehmann's translation of some of the most important 19th
c. works on PIE is available on the University of Texas Department of
Linguistics web  site.  The book Readings in 19th Century Historical
Indo-European Linguistics (I think) was publish in th late 60s by Indiana
University Press.  You get to read significant work by Grimm, Grassman,
Verner, Saussure, etc. and marvel at the ground-breaking work they did.

Herb


-----Original Message-----
From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar on behalf of Spruiell,
William C
Sent: Fri 9/15/2006 2:24 PM
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Subject: Re: Textbook for My History of the English Language Course
 
I'm the one that used Bryson as supplementary outside reading. Again,
you have to take it for what it is -- a popularization written by a
nonlinguist. "The Story of English" series has somewhat similar problems
-- McNeil tends to find one person to act as an authority on any given
issue, and then ignores disagreements in the field, alternate
viewpoints, etc., and occasionally throws in conjecture with a hefty
coating of "factiness." 

The good thing about using these types of works is that you can use them
to bring up discussions about how one goes about verifying claims about
language, about the origins and motivations behind false etymologies,
and so forth. And in both Bryson and McNeil's defense, I think we can
take it as a given that "The First Germanic Sound Shift: The Miniseries"
might be hard to sell to the network folks, especially now that Marcel
Marceau is no longer around to cast in the role of a Voiceless Aspirate.

Bill Spruiell

Dept. of English
Central Michigan University 


-----Original Message-----
From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stahlke, Herbert F.W.
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:13 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Textbook for My History of the English Language Course

I agree.  Bryson is fun, but his research and command of the material is
a little shaky.  My son used it in an undergrad class and loved it.  He
was a little offended when I pointed out some of the problems.

Herb


-----Original Message-----
From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar on behalf of Johanna
Rubba
Sent: Thu 9/14/2006 4:04 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Textbook for My History of the English Language Course
 
One of Bill Bryson's books was mentioned -- Made in AMerica? or 
something. But I recommend AGAINST his "The Mother Tongue". It's not 
accurate enough. Journalists!

Dr. Johanna Rubba, Associate Professor, Linguistics
Linguistics Minor Advisor
English Department
California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
E-mail: [log in to unmask]
Tel.: 805.756.2184
Dept. Ofc. Tel.: 805.756.2596
Dept. Fax: 805.756.6374
URL: http://www.cla.calpoly.edu/~jrubba

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