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I would say that as written it is ambiguous.  The question is the scope of the modifier, and the sentence could be interpreted so as to put each verb phrase into the scope of the modifier.  It isn't customary to set off a postposed prepositional phrase modifier with a comma, and so it can be interpreted as specific to that predicate or generally as a modifier of all three predicates.  It can clearly be read aloud either way, and the slight pause if it is interpreted as a sentence modifier would not have to be marked by a comma.

Herb

Herbert F. W. Stahlke, Ph.D.
Emeritus Professor of English
Ball State University
Muncie, IN  47306
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From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Susan van Druten [[log in to unmask]]
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Subject: Re: syntax in a legal document

Thanks, Herb.  I probably should clarify.  IEP's are law that are written by the special ed teacher.  I, the classroom teacher, am required to follow the law even though I find it to be immoral as it condones cheating and requires me to give my good name to a grade that I know was acquired by cheating.  I want you to find the original IEP to be ambiguous.

So here's my question: as written is the originally-worded statement from the IEP ambiguous enough for a smart lawyer on my behalf to argue that I, the classroom teacher, can use my discretion about not allowing a test to be given in the special ed resource room?  Or am I required by law to let my test be administered by the special ed teacher (who will let my student cheat)?

My district may be forced to fire me for breaking the law because I did not allow the test to be taken in the resource room last Friday when directly told to do so by my principal.  I would like to use the vagueness of the IEP (written by the special ed teacher) as my defense.

I'd like to hear the grammar experts' responses.

Don't worry, I have many other defenses.  I just want your take on the syntax issue.

Susan

On Apr 4, 2009, at 4:11 PM, STAHLKE, HERBERT F wrote:

To make it unambiguous, I think you'd want to put "per teacher discretion" at the beginning of the sentence.  Then it would clearly modify all three verb phrases.  It's too easy to interpret the phrase as restricted to the last conjunct if it's at the end.

Herb

Herbert F. W. Stahlke, Ph.D.
Emeritus Professor of English
Ball State University
Muncie, IN  47306
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Subject: syntax in a legal document

The IEP reads as follows: "He may take tests in the resource room, have extended time to complete them, and they may be open book per teacher discreation [sic]."  Is there any way the per teacher discretion line could be seen as modifying the entire sentence?

I am the teacher who must give my tests to the special ed teacher who lets the students cheat on tests.  I'm looking for a loophole, so the IEP will have to be rewritten.

Thanks for any help!
Susan
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