I hit send too soon and hadn't finished, reread, or signed my message on
choosing books.
christine
Wollin, Edith wrote:
>
> Writers' Choices: Grammar to Improve Style from Michael Kischner and Edith
> Wollin is finally out from Harcourt if you want to order an examination copy
> to see if it interests you. We are hopeful that it can be part of a
> composition course, but acknowledge that the two together are a lot a work
> for those in quarter systems. We are believers in rhetorical grammar, come
> to independently from Martha, thus proving that it is an idea whose time has
> come! And we use sentence combining along with students' own composing.
> Edith Wollin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rebecca S. Wheeler [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 2:51 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: burn your grammar books
>
> I used Klammer's Analyzing English Grammar for 1 year, and no more. I found
> that the
> degree of detail he went into was way way more than what the students could
> handle,
> and was way beyond what I wanted to focus on. Furthermore, there weren't
> enough
> exercises to suit my taste.
>
> As many on this listserve know, my preference is for Morenberg's DOING
> GRAMMAR,
> which will soon be in the third edition, I hear. So, I'm returning to DOING
> GRAMMAR
> this year (next week), in both my advanced grammar classes. I will try
> blending that
> with his "Writer's Options" as a way to apply some of the more complex
> clause
> structures to writing.
>
> His focus on basic structural analysis of the sentence into the 6 types of
> verb
> types (and hence sentence structure types) is VERY accessible, with clear
> mnemonics.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rebecca
>
> Christine Gray wrote:
>
> > Has anyone on the list used Thomas Klammer's Analyzing English Grammar??
> >
> > I've been using it for about six years. One aspect of it I prefer over
> > Kolln's is that it has examples of diagramming using both tree and
> > Reed-Kellogg diagrams.
> >
> > And, Ed, I agree with you! It is so difficult to find actual grammar
> > books. Most books seem to be either handbooks/refereence books or
> > designed for developmental students.
> >
> > Christine Gray
>
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