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"Eduard C. Hanganu" <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:17:53 -0500
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Robert:

I apologize. There was no need for me to insist on a bibliography. We 
are not writing research papers in this forum. We are simply having a 
good time (?).

Eduard 



On Sun, 03 Sep 2006, Robert Yates wrote...

>Eduard,
>
>This is not exactly the way to carry on a conversation on the 
internet.
>
>Given your views on Pinker, I cited it because it is a source you 
should
>have.  (You will note when I cited the work of Goldin-Meadow and
>Mylander I provided a source.  Pinker does not cite this work.)
>
>I had the good fortune of doing my graduate work at the same time   
at
>the same place Jenny Singleton was doing her research on Simon.
>I heard Singleton more than once on her data and I have her 
dissertation
>in my files.  
>
>If you want the exact reference to this work, consult Pinker.  Why 
does
>not giving you the exact reference make my summary not worthy of a
>response?
>
>You apparently want exact references. 
>
>Gordon, P. (1986).  Level ordering in lexical development. Cognition,
>21, 73-93. 
>
>Now, did I misrepresent this research?
>If I represented the research correctly, does it provide support for 
an
>innate hypothesis or how would you explain it from a non-innate
>perspective?
>
>By the way, assuming Singleton correctly reports on the ASL of Simon 
and
>his parents, how would you explain the fact the his ASL is more
>native-like than his parents' ASL, yet his only input was his 
parents'
>non-native ASL?  
>
>You may provide general quotations of people all you want, but where 
is
>the evidence to support those claims?   When I did my graduate work, 
I
>did not learn that appeal to authority was a convincing argument.   
Was
>this a serious deficit in my education.
>
>Bob Yates, Central Missouri State University 
>
>Oh, I did a little analysis of Sampson, YOUR source.  I pointed out a
>problem with his research and reasoning for claiming language cannot 
be
>innate.  Your silence on my analysis is noteworthy. 

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