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Jan Kammert <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:59:44 -0400
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Is anyone else bothered by the use of the word "or" in #1 below?  As 
in... writing OR speaking?  Does this mean writing AND speaking?

Does anyone know who was in the group that worked out the CC?

I am a middle school teacher, and I feel overwhelmed with both how many 
standards there are, and how much more challenging they are than the 
standards we have been using. 

I also find most of the standards vague enough that I'm not always sure 
what they mean.  I'm not only talking about the language (grammar) 
standards.  English teachers have reading and writing standards too. 
Jan


Quoting John Chorazy <[log in to unmask]>:
A few Language Standards for 11-12 grades (with my parenthetical 
annotations): 

1. Demonstrate command of the conventions of standard English grammar 
and usage when writing or speaking (I'd agree there is no specific 
demand here for a language set that describes the conventions, but 
there is broad room for introducing it and for students to employ it in 
order to fulfill the requirements of an ELA course. The Standards 
aren't the end or the all of the curriculum, they're a framework for 
"college readiness"... though maybe that's another discussion in 
itself...).  a. Apply the understanding that usage is a matter of 
convention, can change over time, and is sometimes contested (How does 
one apply this understanding without a common language set to engage in 
a productive conversation? I think there's plenty of room for the 
classroom teacher here, necessarily).  b. Resolve issues of complex or 
contested usage, consulting references (e.g.Merriam- Webster’s 
Dictionary of English Usage, Garner’s Modern American Usage) as 
needed (Same as above, I'd say. Complex issues demand a complex jargon). 

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