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Herb,

Comments on noun functions. Does calling nouns used this way adjective make
sense to students? Our linguistic system likes to be able to manipulate form
words into other parts of speech, nouns to verbs and so on. One choice that
appears to be handy is our use of nouns as modifiers, as in "the stocking
committee planning chart" or "a fan belt compression fitting design plan."
So we might hear of a "site plan coordination effort currently underway." I
just read about the " 2007 Devils Lake operation summary report document."
How's this: "The linear realignment task force control system planning
session." That could apply to grammar study.
----- Original Message -----
From: "STAHLKE, HERBERT F" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: tion & nouns


Linda,

You're right that nouns can modify nouns and therefore function as
adjectives.  And function is a nice instance of a verb in -tion.
English borrowed "function" from French as a noun in the late 16th c.
It's verb use doesn't appear until 1856.

And your cynicism is well founded.

Herb

-----Original Message-----
From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Linda Comerford
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 11:50 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: tion & nouns

Can't words ending in -tion (or -ion) also function as adjectives like
an
election poll (or like a verb as used in this sentence:  function)? I'm
all
for simplifying as much as possible for my students, but I've learned to
be
cynical about using the words "all" or "none" regarding grammar.

Linda



Linda Comerford
317.786.6404
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www.comerfordconsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jan Kammert
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:36 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: tion & nouns


I teach middle school.  One of the teachers in my district (not my
building)
said that all words that end in -tion are nouns.  I never heard that
before,
but I thought of all the words I could that end in -tion.  I think he
might
be right.

Then I thought maybe all words that end in just -ion are nouns.  Am I
right?
Maybe this information will help my students, but I don't want to tell
them
something wrong.

If all words that end is -ion are nouns, can someone tell me why?  Is
there
some history about those words?
Thanks!
Jan

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