Yep, the point I was trying to make was that "them" in "them shrimp are good" is a cousin of the demonstrative pronoun--it's more like a demonstrative pronoun, which some but not all traditional grammars acknowledge.  But I think you're right in saying that it's really more of a demonstrative determiner.  I don't know if that's a real term, but it seems like it ought to be.

Larry

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"Them" in "Them shrimp are sure good" is not a demonstrative pronoun. It 
is a determiner (in the 'article' position of the noun phrase) (did they 
call this a demonstrative adjective in traditional grammar?) It is still 
demonstrative, but it is not a pronoun. It is not replacing a noun 
phrase. If one were to say, "Them sure are good shrimp", you would have 
a demons. pronoun, in which "Them" stands in for "shrimp".

I see the 'which' of 'in which case' as also having the demonstrative 
determiner function--note its similarity to 'in that case' or 'in this 
case'--again, not a pronoun, but a modifier.

Traditional grammar classed articles as adjectives. Linguistics does 
not. The two classes do not behave in the same way.

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