Patty,
   Exactly. We need to take an official position on this; it doesn't make
sense to advocate grammar instruction and not advocate that teachers be
trained to carry it out. We also need to reach out to teachers in the
field who would like to know more. If that's what we mean by
certification, preparing teachers to teach the grammar knowledge that
we advocate as useful and important, I would be happy to support it.

Craig>


I know this might be a lot like "preaching to the choir" but I wonder why
> these sorts of courses are not required for all language arts
> certifications.  I should think that an understanding of these issues
> would
> only help instructors.
>
> -patty
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
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> Subject: Re: Grammar Certification
>
> The difference between ESL teacher training and language arts teacher
> training has been touched on here before, but our ESL licensure program
> contrasts strongly with our language arts licensure program in this way.
> The ESL licensure is an add-on, a 24-hour program rather like a minor.  It
> requires an introduction to linguistics, a linguistically oriented English
> structure course, and language and society course, and language and gender
> coures, together with all of the methods and other pedagogical courses.
> For
> our language arts majors, the language and society course is the only
> linguistic requirement.  The English grammar course is an elective.
>
> Herb
>
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