I was unaware of the previous dialog on the topic, but was a bit curious
about the prohibition, and took the liberty of doing a search in the LOB
Corpus (a large collection of text files of British English). Out of
thirty instances of sentence-initial "In his..." constructions, thirteen
involved a cataphoric relation between "his" and a following NP. The
majority of those thirteen, interestingly, were of the same type as the
one under discussion -- they identified a publication in which the
referent said something.

Thanks for the reference, Herb! This is the kind of think I like to
point students to in classes like History of English and Pedagogic
Grammar. 

Bill Spruiell

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From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stahlke, Herbert F.W.
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Subject: Re: Syntax question

The rule prohibiting possessives as antecedents started appearing in
handbooks and public discussion about 60 or 70 years ago and was not a
part of what was taught as English grammar before that.  There was an
extensive discussion of the Possessive Antecedent Prohibition on the
American Dialect Society list, culminating in a longish and excellent
analysis by Arnold Zwicky.  You can find a summary of the analysis at

http://www-csli.stanford.edu/~zwicky/adshand.pdf

This is a good example of a rule of grammar that isn't, one that is very
recent in its inception but has made it into handbooks and even the SAT,
even though some of the best writers violate regularly.

Herb




I think the 2nd sounds clearer because the pronoun 'he' of the first one
should not refer back to an adjective (Hrothgar's), not to mention that
leaves "Beowulf" as the antecedent for "he".

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