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Christine Gray <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:26:45 -0400
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Rebecca, thank you for posting that title.  I will get a copy of it.

I agree with you about Klammer.  His book is very, maybe too, detailed;
I think improvements could be made in the nature and number of
exercises.

Christine



Rebecca S. Wheeler wrote:
>
> I used Klammer's Analyzing English Grammar for 1 year, and no more. I found that the
> degree of detail he went into was way way more than what the students could handle,
> and was way beyond what I wanted to focus on. Furthermore, there weren't enough
> exercises to suit my taste.
>
> As many on this listserve know, my preference is for Morenberg's DOING GRAMMAR,
> which will soon be in the third edition, I hear. So, I'm returning to DOING GRAMMAR
> this year (next week), in both my advanced grammar classes. I will try blending that
> with his "Writer's Options" as a way to apply some of the more complex clause
> structures to writing.
>
> His  focus on basic structural analysis of the sentence into the 6 types of verb
> types (and hence sentence structure types) is VERY accessible, with clear mnemonics.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rebecca
>
> Christine Gray wrote:
>
> > Has anyone on the list used Thomas Klammer's Analyzing English Grammar??
> >
> > I've been using it for about six years.  One aspect of it I prefer over
> > Kolln's is that it has examples of diagramming using both tree and
> > Reed-Kellogg diagrams.
> >
> > And, Ed, I agree with you!  It is so difficult to find actual grammar
> > books. Most books seem to be either handbooks/refereence books or
> > designed for developmental students.
> >
> > Christine Gray
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Rebecca S. Wheeler, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor of Linguistics
> Department of English
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> Christopher Newport University
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>
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> Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar (ATEG), an assembly of the National
> Council of Teachers of English (NCTE). www.ateg.org.
>
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> * reducing the achievement gap between inner city minority children and middle class
> children,
> * discovery learning of grammar in the classroom
>
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