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Celeste Wortes <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:24:59 -0500
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Hello everyone!

These sentences do not meet basic STANDARD American English; thus, I
definitely think they are unacceptable if the intention is to teach
children about grammaticality.  On the other hand, from a linguist's point
of view, if the intention is just to teach the children orthography, then
is it possible the choice of letters is the point?  (I have never taught
this level, so I really do not know).

Celeste



Quoting Beth Young <[log in to unmask]>:

> Hi everyone,
>
> My kindergartner brought home a handwriting worksheet yesterday that 
> contained the following example "sentences":
>
> See my cat?
> See my cat and dog?
> *I see a rat ran.
> *See my cat sat?
> A man ran.
>
> To me, the * sentences are ungrammatical.  Someone else said that 
> since you could put a "that" in those sentences, they are not truly 
> ungrammatical, e.g., "I see that a rat ran" or "See that my cat sat?" 
>  I'm not convinced.
>
> I am tempted to talk with the teacher, who didn't create the 
> worksheet but who did choose to use it.  However, if I'm overreacting 
> to the sentences, I'll hold my tongue.  I've had other reasons to 
> talk with this teacher and I don't want to pile on.
>
> What do you think?
>
> thanks,
>
> Beth
>
> PS I can't tell whether the handout is representative because much of 
> the work that comes home involves no writing whatsoever.  e.g., cut 
> out these pictures and arrange them in story sequence.
>
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