I also teach grammar online & agree with nearly everything Scott suggests...
I have one addition & one request...
Addition:
I have students write 6-7 themes... The first is rather general & reflective. For each of the subsequent themes, they analyze their last theme in terms of the structures we are currently studying & reflect on what they do well & what they could improve...
Request:
Scott, could you tell us what text you use that has a "good workbook with quizzes and exercises done and graded automatically"?
Best,
D
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Yes. To teach an online grammar course, you need a syllabus, a good text,
and good workbook with quizzes and exercises done and graded automatically.
You also need provisions for themes to be written on line on specific topics
by specific deadlines and carefully judged and evaluated--this last part is
the hardest and most time-consuming part. The students need to rewrite each
theme within a specified time limit correcting all errors and, hopefully,
not making more and turning in the themes by a specific deadline or suffer
grade penalties--usually a letter grade a day drop.
Right now I am setting up graduate courses in both historical and
descriptive linguistics with heavy workbook assignment but no themes--just
tests requiring analysis, complex thinking, and cogent argument
Scott Catledge
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Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:46:51 -0400
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I have CD versions of my grammar workshops. Please contact me offline if
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Fellow Grammarians,
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I have. It was really hard, but it can be done. I will probably do it as a=
grad class in the future. I made videos of important lectures. They wer=
e short, because I don't usually rely on lectures a lot. I usually try to =
interact with students and the material during class time, and that is hard=
to re-create online. I wound up collecting all their homework so I could s=
ee what the problem areas were. Then I would try to write out explanations =
by email. One thing that was difficult is that I use certain formatting fo=
r analyzing parts of speech and clauses, and it doesn't always stick when s=
ent out via email. I guess one important thing to do is keep reminding them=
of what is due and what the expectations are both online and by email.
Janet
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Fellow Grammarians,
Has anyone out there taught an on-line grammar course?
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in the future. I made videos of important lectures. They were =
short, because I don’t usually rely on lectures a lot.
I usually try to interact with students and the material during class time=
, and that is hard to re-create online. I wound up collecting all their hom=
ework so I could see what the problem areas were. Then I would try to write=
out explanations by email. One
thing that was difficult is that I use certain formatting for analyzing pa=
rts of speech and clauses, and it doesn’t always stick when sent out =
via email. I guess one important thing to do is keep reminding them of what=
is due and what the expectations are
both online and by email.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Fellow Grammarians,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Has anyone out there taught an on-line grammar cours=
e?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We’re under increasing pressure to offer every=
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ng similar pressure.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any help would be appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Marshall<o:p></o:p></p>
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I have taught Freshman Comp courses online, but we are expressly prohibited
from teaching grammar, per se. However, most of us work it into our lesson
plans, even if it's not expressly mentioned on the syllabus.
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> Fellow Grammarians,
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> Has anyone out there taught an on-line grammar course?
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>
>
> We=92re under increasing pressure to offer every course taught by the Eng=
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> Department on-line. Your school may be exerting similar pressure.
>
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Marshall
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son plans, even if it's not expressly mentioned on the syllabus.<br><br=
>
Maryann <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:46 PM,=
Myers, Marshall <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:Marshall.Myers@eku=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Fellow Grammarians,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Has anyone out there taught an on-line grammar cours=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We=92re under increasing pressure to offer every cou=
rse
taught by the English Department on-line. Your school may be exerting simil=
ar
pressure.</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any help would be appreciated.</p>
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