Just sticking my two cents in in agreement with Bob Yates. I teach both English as a Second Language and
college level English writing, and find similar problems in both levels. Perhaps this list could serve
all levels if we kindly accept that not everyone will be discussing the same levels and all of us try to
see the many facets involved in this almost overwhelmingly enormous process of the teaching of grammar. I
usually just silently lurk on this list as my grammar teaching needs are more hands-on, simple, and not
in the higher realms of theory. I struggle daily with subject/verb agreements, punctuation, comma
splices, use of articles, and just the other usual mundane uses of grammar. I learn (and share with
peers) from this list, and I would like to see it retain all levels of experience and knowledge. Gordon
Carmichael, Central Texas College and Tarleton State University, Killeen, Texas

Bob Yates wrote:

> I think a separate listserve for public school teachers would be a big mistake.
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> For those of us committed to the teaching of grammar, we need to hear how it is taught at all levels.
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> Moreover, many of us in universities do teach writing and have to respond to the writing of students.
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> Bob Yates
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