Florida has a peninsula but no isthmus: we think of East Coast, West Coast,
and Caribbean(?)
when describing peninsula Florida. We never normally say 'peninsula'; it is
assumed unless
you state "Panhandle."
Scott
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> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:08:40 -0700
> From: Carol Morrison <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Word usage problem?
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> Dear List Members:
> =A0
> This morning in class, the students and I came across a sentence in their
> g=
> rammar handbook that apparently contains a misusage of some sort that we
> co=
> uld not identify:
> =A0
> The Keweenaw Peninsula is surrounded on three sides by Lake Superior.
> =A0
> The only explanation we could some up with is that "three sides" should be
> =
> replaced with "all sides" because a peninsula only has three sides and an
> i=
> sthmus. Or does it have two sides?
> =A0
> Best-
> =A0
> Carol
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> <table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td
> valign=3D"=
> top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Dear List Members:</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>This <FONT face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif">morning</FONT> in
> cla=
> ss, the students and I came across a sentence in their grammar handbook
> tha=
> t apparently contains a misusage of some sort that we could not
> identify:</=
> DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif">The Keweenaw
> Pen=
> insula is surrounded on three sides by Lake Superior.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"tahoma, new york, times, serif">The only explanation we
> =
> could some up with is that "three sides" should be replaced with "all
> sides=
> " because a peninsula only has three sides and an isthmus. Or does it have
> =
> two sides?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Best-</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Carol</FONT></DIV></td></tr></table>
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> ------------------------------
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> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:31:04 +0000
> From: "Spruiell, William C" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Word usage problem?
>
> Carol,
>
> The author may be objecting to "surrounded," based on a hyper-literal
> read=
> ing ("if it's not encircled, it's not surrounded"). I've seen some similar
> =
> examples, although usually in older books (for example, an author
> objecting=
> to "audience" for a group of people watching a visual performance).
>
> Bill Spruiell
>
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 10:08 AM, "Carol Morrison"
> <[log in to unmask]<mail=
> to:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> Dear List Members:
>
> This morning in class, the students and I came across a sentence in their
> g=
> rammar handbook that apparently contains a misusage of some sort that we
> co=
> uld not identify:
>
> The Keweenaw Peninsula is surrounded on three sides by Lake Superior.
>
> The only explanation we could some up with is that "three sides" should be
> =
> replaced with "all sides" because a peninsula only has three sides and an
> i=
> sthmus. Or does it have two sides?
>
> Best-
>
> Carol
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> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:32:47 -0700
> From: Carol Morrison <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Word usage problem?
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> --1460388173-1440420448-1317306767=:23697
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> The only explanation we could *come* up with...(sorry!)
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> --- On Thu, 9/29/11, Carol Morrison <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>
> From: Carol Morrison <[log in to unmask]>
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> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 10:08 AM
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>
>
>
>
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> Dear List Members:
> =A0
> This morning in class, the students and I came across a sentence in their
> g=
> rammar handbook that apparently contains a misusage of some sort that we
> co=
> uld not identify:
> =A0
> The Keweenaw Peninsula is surrounded on three sides by Lake Superior.
> =A0
> The only explanation we could some up with is that "three sides" should be
> =
> replaced with "all sides" because a peninsula only has three sides and an
> i=
> sthmus. Or does it have two sides?
> =A0
> Best-
> =A0
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> <table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td
> valign=3D"=
> top" style=3D"font: inherit;">The only explanation we could *come* up
> with.=
> ..(sorry!)<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 9/29/11, Carol Morrison
> <I><carollynne4=
> [log in to unmask]></I></B> wrote:<BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:
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> px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Carol Morrison
> <[log in to unmask]&g=
> t;<BR>Subject: Word usage problem?<BR>To:
> [log in to unmask]<BR>Date:=
> Thursday, September 29, 2011, 10:08 AM<BR><BR>
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> <TABLE border=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0>
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> <DIV>Dear List Members:</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>This <FONT face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif">morning</FONT> in
> cla=
> ss, the students and I came across a sentence in their grammar handbook
> tha=
> t apparently contains a misusage of some sort that we could not
> identify:</=
> DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif">The Keweenaw
> Pen=
> insula is surrounded on three sides by Lake Superior.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"tahoma, new york, times, serif">The only explanation we
> =
> could some up with is that "three sides" should be replaced with "all
> sides=
> " because a peninsula only has three sides and an isthmus. Or does it have
> =
> two sides?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Best-</FONT></DIV>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:50:36 -0400
> From: "Hancock, Craig G" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Word usage problem?
>
> It's also possible that "Peninsula" connotes "surrounded on three
> side=
> s," so this would be mildly redundant. "The Keeneshaw Peninsula juts into
> L=
> ake Superior" or "is bounded by Lake superior." Something like that would
> b=
> e cleaner.
> It seems to me more and more that handbooks are in the business of
> disc=
> overing error in the same way that drug companies are in the business of
> di=
> scovering new diseases. At a certain point, it becomes self serving (to
> the=
> companies) and dangerous to the public, complete with serious side
> effects=
> .
> The best way to avoid error is to shut up or die.
> We should declare a moratorium on error and invent something comparable
> =
> to holistic medicine.=20
> Holistic grammar? It might get attention.
> Craig
> =20
> ________________________________________
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> The only explanation we could *come* up with...(sorry!)
>
> --- On Thu, 9/29/11, Carol Morrison <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> From: Carol Morrison <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Word usage problem?
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 10:08 AM
>
> Dear List Members:
>
> This morning in class, the students and I came across a sentence in their
> g=
> rammar handbook that apparently contains a misusage of some sort that we
> co=
> uld not identify:
>
> The Keweenaw Peninsula is surrounded on three sides by Lake Superior.
>
> The only explanation we could some up with is that "three sides" should be
> =
> replaced with "all sides" because a peninsula only has three sides and an
> i=
> sthmus. Or does it have two sides?
>
> Best-
>
> Carol
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> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:03:23 -0500
> From: John Dews-Alexander <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Word usage problem?
>
> --20cf3042719c2220b304ae15d1b1
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> Perhaps the author objects to the passive voice (although I'm not sure
> what
> the justification would be if the sentence is in isolation)? By the way, a
> Google search of the sentence shows several sites, including the Keeneshaw
> Chamber of Commerce, using that wording. The natives don't seem to object!
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Hancock, Craig G
> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> It's also possible that "Peninsula" connotes "surrounded on three
>> sides," so this would be mildly redundant. "The Keeneshaw Peninsula juts
>> into Lake Superior" or "is bounded by Lake superior." Something like that
>> would be cleaner.
>> It seems to me more and more that handbooks are in the business of
>> discovering error in the same way that drug companies are in the business
>> of
>> discovering new diseases. At a certain point, it becomes self serving (to
>> the companies) and dangerous to the public, complete with serious side
>> effects.
>> The best way to avoid error is to shut up or die.
>> We should declare a moratorium on error and invent something comparable
>> to holistic medicine.
>> Holistic grammar? It might get attention.
>> Craig
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [
>> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carol Morrison [
>> [log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:32 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Word usage problem?
>>
>> The only explanation we could *come* up with...(sorry!)
>>
>> --- On Thu, 9/29/11, Carol Morrison <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> From: Carol Morrison <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Word usage problem?
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 10:08 AM
>>
>> Dear List Members:
>>
>> This morning in class, the students and I came across a sentence in their
>> grammar handbook that apparently contains a misusage of some sort that we
>> could not identify:
>>
>> The Keweenaw Peninsula is surrounded on three sides by Lake Superior.
>>
>> The only explanation we could some up with is that "three sides" should
>> be
>> replaced with "all sides" because a peninsula only has three sides and an
>> isthmus. Or does it have two sides?
>>
>> Best-
>>
>> Carol
>>
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> Perhaps the author objects to the passive voice (although I'm not sure
> =
> what the justification would be if the sentence is in isolation)? By the
> wa=
> y, a Google search of the sentence shows several sites, including the
> Keene=
> shaw Chamber of Commerce, using that wording. The natives don't seem
> to=
> object!<br>
>
> <br>John<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:50
> AM,=
> Hancock, Craig G <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a
> href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]
> du">[log in to unmask]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote
> class=3D"gmail=
> _quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
> solid;padding-left:=
> 1ex;">
>
> =A0 =A0 It's also possible that "Peninsula" connotes
> "s=
> urrounded on three sides," so this would be mildly redundant.
> "Th=
> e Keeneshaw Peninsula juts into Lake Superior" or "is bounded by
> =
> Lake superior." Something like that would be cleaner.<br>
>
>
> =A0 =A0It seems to me more and more that handbooks are in the business of
> =
> discovering error in the same way that drug companies are in the business
> o=
> f discovering new diseases. At a certain point, it becomes self serving
> (to=
> the companies) and dangerous to the public, complete with serious side
> eff=
> ects.<br>
>
>
> =A0 The best way to avoid error is to shut up or die.<br>
> =A0 We should declare a moratorium on error and invent something
> comparabl=
> e to holistic medicine.<br>
> =A0 Holistic grammar? It might get attention.<br>
> Craig<br>
> <br>
> ________________________________________<br>
> From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [<a
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> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:12:08 -0700
>From: Carol Morrison <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Word usage problem?
>
> --2055901420-1677192483-1317309128=:74821
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>
> Craig:
> =A0
> =A0If this=A0were a post on Facebook, I'd hit=A0"like," especially the
> part=
> about drug companies "discovering new diseases." I did tell the students
> t=
> hat I would present the question to the members of ATEG, so that maybe
> they=
> could come up with answer or consensus. The students=A0were very
> impressed=
> that a panel of experts would be presented with the usage problem, as the
> =
> answer was not in the back of their books. They were also surprised that I
> =
> did not have the answer.=A0(Only=A0"lettered" answers are=A0provided and
> th=
> is was a "numbered" question).=A0As we all know, there is only ever one
> cor=
> rect answer when it comes to grammar. (kidding, of course)=A0Thank you for
> =
> your response and thanks to Bill for his response also!
> Best-
> Carol
>
> --- On Thu, 9/29/11, Hancock, Craig G <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
> From: Hancock, Craig G <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Word usage problem?
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 10:50 AM
>
>
> =A0 =A0=A0=A0It's also possible that "Peninsula" connotes "surrounded on
> th=
> ree sides," so this would be mildly redundant. "The Keeneshaw Peninsula
> jut=
> s into Lake Superior" or "is bounded by Lake superior." Something like
> that=
> would be cleaner.
> =A0 =A0 It seems to me more and more that handbooks are in the business of
> =
> discovering error in the same way that drug companies are in the business
> o=
> f discovering new diseases. At a certain point, it becomes self serving
> (to=
> the companies) and dangerous to the public, complete with serious side
> eff=
> ects.
> =A0=A0=A0The best way to avoid error is to shut up or die.
> =A0=A0=A0We should declare a moratorium on error and invent something
> compa=
> rable to holistic medicine.=20
> =A0=A0=A0Holistic grammar? It might get attention.
> Craig
> =A0 =A0=20
> ________________________________________
> From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
> [[log in to unmask]
> U] On Behalf Of Carol Morrison [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:32 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Word usage problem?
>
> The only explanation we could *come* up with...(sorry!)
>
> --- On Thu, 9/29/11, Carol Morrison <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> From: Carol Morrison <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Word usage problem?
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 10:08 AM
>
> Dear List Members:
>
> This morning in class, the students and I came across a sentence in their
> g=
> rammar handbook that apparently contains a misusage of some sort that we
> co=
> uld not identify:
>
> The Keweenaw Peninsula is surrounded on three sides by Lake Superior.
>
> The only explanation we could some up with is that "three sides" should be
> =
> replaced with "all sides" because a peninsula only has three sides and an
> i=
> sthmus. Or does it have two sides?
>
> Best-
>
> Carol
>
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> <table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td
> valign=3D"=
> top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Craig:</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV> If this were a post on Facebook, I'd hit "like,"
> espec=
> ially the part about drug companies "discovering new diseases." I did tell
> =
> the students that I would present the question to the members of ATEG, so
> t=
> hat maybe they could come up with answer or consensus. The
> students we=
> re very impressed that a panel of experts would be presented with the
> usage=
> problem, as the answer was not in the back of their books. They were also
> =
> surprised that I did not have the answer. (Only "lettered"
> answer=
> s are provided and this was a "numbered" question). As we all
> kno=
> w, there is only ever<EM> one</EM> correct answer when it comes to
> grammar.=
> (kidding, of course) Thank you for your response and thanks to Bill
> f=
> or his response also!</DIV>
> <DIV>Best-</DIV>
> <DIV>Carol<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 9/29/11, Hancock, Craig G
> <I><chancock@=
> ALBANY.EDU></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:
> 5=
> px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Hancock, Craig G
> <[log in to unmask]>=
> ;<BR>Subject: Re: Word usage problem?<BR>To:
> [log in to unmask]<BR>Da=
> te: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 10:50 AM<BR><BR>
> <DIV class=3DplainMail> It's also possible that
> "Pe=
> ninsula" connotes "surrounded on three sides," so this would be mildly
> redu=
> ndant. "The Keeneshaw Peninsula juts into Lake Superior" or "is bounded by
> =
> Lake superior." Something like that would be cleaner.<BR> It
> s=
> eems to me more and more that handbooks are in the business of discovering
> =
> error in the same way that drug companies are in the business of
> discoverin=
> g new diseases. At a certain point, it becomes self serving (to the
> compani=
> es) and dangerous to the public, complete with serious side
> effects.<BR>&nb=
> sp; The best way to avoid error is to shut up or
> die.<BR> &=
> nbsp; We should declare a moratorium on error and invent something
> com=
> parable to holistic medicine. <BR> Holistic grammar? It
> mi=
> ght get attention.<BR>Craig<BR>
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> 29, 2011, 10:08 AM<BR><BR>Dear List Members:<BR><BR>This morning in class,
> =
> the students and I came across a sentence in their grammar handbook that
> ap=
> parently contains a misusage of some sort that we could not
> identify:<BR><B=
> R>The Keweenaw Peninsula is surrounded on three sides by Lake
> Superior.<BR>=
> <BR>The only explanation we could some up with is that "three sides"
> should=
> be replaced with "all sides" because a peninsula only has three sides and
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> ------------------------------
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> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:15:26 -0700
> From: Carol Morrison <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Word usage problem?
>
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> Thanks for checking, John. Oh, and the textbook also spells "Keeneshaw"
> inc=
> orrectly according to the way you and Craig have spelled it.
>
> --- On Thu, 9/29/11, John Dews-Alexander <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
> From: John Dews-Alexander <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Word usage problem?
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 11:03 AM
>
>
> Perhaps the author objects to the passive voice (although I'm not sure
> what=
> the justification would be if the sentence is in isolation)? By the way,
> a=
> Google search of the sentence shows several sites, including the
> Keeneshaw=
> Chamber of Commerce, using that wording. The natives don't seem to object!
>
> John
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Hancock, Craig G <[log in to unmask]>
> wro=
> te:
>
> =A0 =A0 It's also possible that "Peninsula" connotes "surrounded on three
> s=
> ides," so this would be mildly redundant. "The Keeneshaw Peninsula juts
> int=
> o Lake Superior" or "is bounded by Lake superior." Something like that
> woul=
> d be cleaner.
> =A0 =A0It seems to me more and more that handbooks are in the business of
> d=
> iscovering error in the same way that drug companies are in the business
> of=
> discovering new diseases. At a certain point, it becomes self serving (to
> =
> the companies) and dangerous to the public, complete with serious side
> effe=
> cts.
> =A0 The best way to avoid error is to shut up or die.
> =A0 We should declare a moratorium on error and invent something
> comparable=
> to holistic medicine.
> =A0 Holistic grammar? It might get attention.
> Craig
>
> ________________________________________
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> =
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> <table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td
> valign=3D"=
> top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Thanks for checking, John. Oh, and the
> textbo=
> ok also spells "Keeneshaw" incorrectly according to the way you and Craig
> h=
> ave spelled it.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 9/29/11, John Dews-Alexander
> <I><j=
> [log in to unmask]></I></B> wrote:<BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT:
> 5=
> px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: John Dews-Alexander
> <jed.alexander@GMAIL=
> .COM><BR>Subject: Re: Word usage problem?<BR>To:
> [log in to unmask]
> U<BR>Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 11:03 AM<BR><BR>
> <DIV id=3Dyiv1803643763>Perhaps the author objects to the passive voice
> (al=
> though I'm not sure what the justification would be if the sentence is in
> i=
> solation)? By the way, a Google search of the sentence shows several
> sites,=
> including the Keeneshaw Chamber of Commerce, using that wording. The
> nativ=
> es don't seem to object!<BR><BR>John<BR><BR>
> <DIV class=3Dyiv1803643763gmail_quote>On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:50 AM,
> Hanc=
> ock, Craig G <SPAN dir=3Dltr><<A
> href=3D"http://us.mc1121.mail.yahoo.com=
> [log in to unmask]" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank
> ymailt=
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> wrote:<=
> BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px
> 0.8ex=
> ; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3Dyiv1803643763gmail_quote> It's
> al=
> so possible that "Peninsula" connotes "surrounded on three sides," so this
> =
> would be mildly redundant. "The Keeneshaw Peninsula juts into Lake
> Superior=
> " or "is bounded by Lake superior." Something like that would be
> cleaner.<B=
> R> It seems to me more and more that handbooks are in the
> busin=
> ess of discovering error in the same way that drug companies are in the
> bus=
> iness of discovering new diseases. At a certain point, it becomes self
> serv=
> ing (to the companies) and dangerous to the public, complete with serious
> s=
> ide effects.<BR> The best way to avoid error is to shut up or
> die.<BR=
>> We should declare a moratorium on error and invent something
>>compar=
> able to holistic medicine.<BR> Holistic grammar? It might get
> attenti=
> on.<BR>Craig<BR><BR>________________________________________<BR>From:
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:22:50 -0500
> From: John Dews-Alexander <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Word usage problem?
>
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> Actually, I have no idea why I spelled it that way. I must have glanced up
> at Craig's post when spelling it. Keweenaw peninsula is indeed the one the
> text is referencing as reflected on the Keweenaw Chamber of Commerce
> website. Sorry for the confusion. I do know of a Keenesaw, Georgia
> coincidentally.
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Carol Morrison
> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> Thanks for checking, John. Oh, and the textbook also spells "Keeneshaw"
>> incorrectly according to the way you and Craig have spelled it.
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 9/29/11, John Dews-Alexander
>> <[log in to unmask]>*wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: John Dews-Alexander <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Word usage problem?
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 11:03 AM
>>
>> Perhaps the author objects to the passive voice (although I'm not sure
>> what
>> the justification would be if the sentence is in isolation)? By the way,
>> a
>> Google search of the sentence shows several sites, including the
>> Keeneshaw
>> Chamber of Commerce, using that wording. The natives don't seem to
>> object!
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Hancock, Craig G
>> <[log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> It's also possible that "Peninsula" connotes "surrounded on three
>> sides," so this would be mildly redundant. "The Keeneshaw Peninsula juts
>> into Lake Superior" or "is bounded by Lake superior." Something like that
>> would be cleaner.
>> It seems to me more and more that handbooks are in the business of
>> discovering error in the same way that drug companies are in the business
>> of
>> discovering new diseases. At a certain point, it becomes self serving (to
>> the companies) and dangerous to the public, complete with serious side
>> effects.
>> The best way to avoid error is to shut up or die.
>> We should declare a moratorium on error and invent something comparable
>> to holistic medicine.
>> Holistic grammar? It might get attention.
>> Craig
>>
>> ________________________________________
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>> site
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> Actually, I have no idea why I spelled it that way. I must have glanced up
> =
> at Craig's post when spelling it. Keweenaw peninsula is indeed the one
> =
> the text is referencing as reflected on the Keweenaw Chamber of Commerce
> we=
> bsite. Sorry for the confusion. I do know of a Keenesaw, Georgia
> coincident=
> ally.<br>
>
> <br>John<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:15
> AM=
> , Carol Morrison <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a
> href=3D"mailto:carollynne41@yahoo=
> .com">[log in to unmask]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote
> class=3D"=
> gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
> solid;padding-=
> left:1ex;">
>
> <table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td
> styl=
> e=3D"font:inherit" valign=3D"top">Thanks for checking, John. Oh, and the
> te=
> xtbook also spells "Keeneshaw" incorrectly according to the way
> y=
> ou and Craig have spelled it.<br>
>
> <br>--- On <b>Thu, 9/29/11, John Dews-Alexander <i><<a
> href=3D"mailto:je=
> [log in to unmask]"
> target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>></i=
>></b> wrote:<br>
> <blockquote style=3D"border-left:rgb(16,16,255) 2px
> solid;padding-left:5px;=
> margin-left:5px"><br>From: John Dews-Alexander <<a
> href=3D"mailto:jed.al=
> [log in to unmask]"
> target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>><br>Sub=
> ject: Re: Word usage problem?<br>
>
> To: <a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"
> target=3D"_blank">ATEG@LIST=
> SERV.MUOHIO.EDU</a><br>Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 11:03
> AM<br><br>
> <div>Perhaps the author objects to the passive voice (although I'm not
> =
> sure what the justification would be if the sentence is in isolation)? By
> t=
> he way, a Google search of the sentence shows several sites, including the
> =
> Keeneshaw Chamber of Commerce, using that wording. The natives don't
> se=
> em to object!<br>
>
> <br>John<br><br>
> <div>On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Hancock, Craig G <span
> dir=3D"ltr">&l=
> t;<a
> href=3D"http://us.mc1121.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dchancock@alban=
> y.edu" rel=3D"nofollow"
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>> wrote:<br>
>
>
> <blockquote style=3D"border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px
> 0.8ex;pa=
> dding-left:1ex">=A0 =A0 It's also possible that "Peninsula"
> c=
> onnotes "surrounded on three sides," so this would be mildly
> redu=
> ndant. "The Keeneshaw Peninsula juts into Lake Superior" or
> "=
> ;is bounded by Lake superior." Something like that would be
> cleaner.<b=
> r>
>
> =A0 =A0It seems to me more and more that handbooks are in the business of
> d=
> iscovering error in the same way that drug companies are in the business
> of=
> discovering new diseases. At a certain point, it becomes self serving (to
> =
> the companies) and dangerous to the public, complete with serious side
> effe=
> cts.<br>
>
> =A0 The best way to avoid error is to shut up or die.<br>=A0 We should
> decl=
> are a moratorium on error and invent something comparable to holistic
> medic=
> ine.<br>=A0 Holistic grammar? It might get
> attention.<br>Craig<br><br>_____=
> ___________________________________<br>
>
> From:
> Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [<a
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:33:33 -0400
> From: "Hancock, Craig G" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Word usage problem?
>
> I seem to remain living proof that error is an inevitable aspect of
> lif=
> e. I must have thought of Keeneshaw Georgia and unwittingly led John down
> t=
> he primrose path.
> It seems to me that most real life language choices all reside in the
> r=
> ealm of "correctness," but construe what is under focus in different ways.
> =
> I can imagine a context in which the more redundant form would be
> preferabl=
> e; trying to reinforce the definition of "peninsula" for a school aged
> audi=
> ence, for example. The author might conclude that "surrounded on three
> side=
> s" would be a helpful reminder. In a "holistic grammar," we would be
> sensit=
> ive to context. All sentences would be thought of as part of a whole, even
> =
> if they were only one sentence wholes.
>
> Craig
> =20
> ________________________________________
> From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
> [[log in to unmask]
> U] On Behalf Of John Dews-Alexander [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:22 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Word usage problem?
>
> Actually, I have no idea why I spelled it that way. I must have glanced up
> =
> at Craig's post when spelling it. Keweenaw peninsula is indeed the one the
> =
> text is referencing as reflected on the Keweenaw Chamber of Commerce
> websit=
> e. Sorry for the confusion. I do know of a Keenesaw, Georgia
> coincidentally=
> .
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Carol Morrison
> <[log in to unmask]<ma=
> ilto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> Thanks for checking, John. Oh, and the textbook also spells "Keeneshaw"
> inc=
> orrectly according to the way you and Craig have spelled it.
>
> --- On Thu, 9/29/11, John Dews-Alexander
> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:je=
> [log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> From: John Dews-Alexander
> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:jed.alexander@GMA=
> IL.COM>>
> Subject: Re: Word usage problem?
> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 11:03 AM
>
> Perhaps the author objects to the passive voice (although I'm not sure
> what=
> the justification would be if the sentence is in isolation)? By the way,
> a=
> Google search of the sentence shows several sites, including the
> Keeneshaw=
> Chamber of Commerce, using that wording. The natives don't seem to object!
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Hancock, Craig G
> <[log in to unmask]<http=
> :[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> It's also possible that "Peninsula" connotes "surrounded on three
> sides=
> ," so this would be mildly redundant. "The Keeneshaw Peninsula juts into
> La=
> ke Superior" or "is bounded by Lake superior." Something like that would
> be=
> cleaner.
> It seems to me more and more that handbooks are in the business of
> disco=
> vering error in the same way that drug companies are in the business of
> dis=
> covering new diseases. At a certain point, it becomes self serving (to the
> =
> companies) and dangerous to the public, complete with serious side
> effects.
> The best way to avoid error is to shut up or die.
> We should declare a moratorium on error and invent something comparable
> t=
> o holistic medicine.
> Holistic grammar? It might get attention.
> Craig
>
> ________________________________________
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>
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:36:06 -0400
> From: Dick Veit <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: the Oxford comma
>
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> You might enjoy this
> cartoon<http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/oxford-comma-cartoon/>about
> the "Oxford comma," the controversial comma that precedes the
> conjunction in a series of three or more items: "eat, drink, and be merry"
> (as opposed to "eat, drink and be merry"). It is also called the "Harvard
> comma" and the "serial comma." The cartoon could provoke discussion in a
> college writing class--perhaps a bit racy for high school.
>
> Similar is the famously ambiguous (and probably apocryphal) book
> dedication:
> "To my parents, Ayn Rand and God."
>
> Dick
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> <a href=3D"http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/oxford-comma-cartoon/">You
> migh=
> t enjoy this cartoon</a> about the "Oxford comma," the
> controvers=
> ial comma that precedes the conjunction in a series of three or more
> items:=
> "eat, drink, and be merry" (as opposed to "eat, drink and
> b=
> e merry"). It is also called the "Harvard comma" and the
> &qu=
> ot;serial comma." The cartoon could provoke discussion in a college
> wr=
> iting class--perhaps a bit racy for high school.<br>
> <br>Similar is the famously ambiguous (and probably apocryphal) book
> dedica=
> tion: "To my parents, Ayn Rand and God."<br><br>Dick<br>
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