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Ronald Sheen <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 15 Oct 2007 06:59:37 -0700
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Thanks, Bob.   But just to be sure, do they function in the same way as do 
English PVs.  In other words, are they different from prepositional verbs 
and thus allow particle movement in both transitives (He took off his hat) 
and intransitives (Off you go.)   The context of this particular discussion 
is ESL and, therefore, the necessity of teaching certain aspects of English 
which other languages do not share.

I wonder, for example, if Scandinavians make errors similar to those made by 
francophones.
Would they ever say things such as, 'Please pick me at my house at 9'.

Ron Sheen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Yates" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: Reasons for teaching PVs in the ESL context.


Christine,

German (English is a Germanic language) is filled with phrasal verbs.   I 
assume this is true for all the Germanic languages: Danish, Swedish, 
Icelandic, Norwegian.

Bob Yates, University of Central Missouri

>>> Ronald Sheen <[log in to unmask]> 10/14/07 11:41 PM >>>
Hi Christine,

I am not aware of any.   No, French does not have any.  One does, however, 
find some forms of French in Canada, particularly New Brunswick, which 
combine a French verb such as 'venir' with 'back'.

Do you teach ESL to francophones?   If so where?   And if so, how do you 
handle faux amis?

Bye, Ron.
.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Christine Reintjes
  To: [log in to unmask]
  Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:07 AM
  Subject: Re: Reasons for teaching PVs in the ESL context.


  Ron,

  Are there any other languages besides English that have phrasal verbs? Is 
it possible that French has one or a few? I'm trying to think of one, but 
I'm realizing they are all prepositional verbs.

  --

  Christine Reintjes Martin
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