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Amanda Godley <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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Here in Pittsburgh (Western PA), some locals refer to themselves (orally and
on bumper stickers) as "yinzers" - derived from the use of "yinz" for the
plural "you." This feature of the local dialect ("Pittsburghese") is viewed
by locals with humor and a kind of self-deprecating pride, as in "we think
it sounds awful, but this is who we are." Some local sociolinguistics have
done interesting research on Pittsburghers' attitudes toward their own
dialect.

There are various Pittsburghese "translation" websites (e.g.,
www.pittsburghese.com), one of which translates John Kennedy's famous line
as: "Ask not wah yinzes country can do fer you n'at. Ask wah yinz can do fer
yinzes country."

I don't know if yinz is the same as Warren's "y'uns." Perhaps "y'uns" is
more common in rural areas in Western PA?
Amanda


On 9/25/07 4:38 PM, "Warren Sieme" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> My Mom was from Western Pennsylvania. She would never think of
> referring to the plural you as "you all," or as "y'all." To her, if
> more than one of you were going somewhere, it would be, "Are y'uns
> goin' dawntawn?" If it was a really big group, it would be "y'unses"
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> Warren
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> From: Veit, Richard <[log in to unmask]>
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> Sent: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 1:57 pm
> Subject: Y'all and you guys
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> used for both men and women (so the ³guys² part doesnıt have
> its usual masculine connotation) and, as kind of a clencher for the
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> As a freshly transplanted Northerner in Wilmington, North
>   Carolina, thirty years ago, I was invited by my chair
> to play tennis. Some confusion arose about which tennis balls on the
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> got all yıallıs balls?² I knew I wasnıt in Iowa any more.
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> Department of English
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-- 
Amanda Godley, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
English Education
University of Pittsburgh
5111 Wesley W. Posvar Hall
Pittsburgh, PA 15260
412-648-7313

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