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Sophie Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:52:35 +1000
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Jennifer and Bruce, there is an issue of meaning, here: `My sister Alice was
beautiful'. Without commas to demarcate `Alice', the semantic template is
`Some things that are "my sister" are `all things that are "Alice" '. With
commas: `My sister, Alice, was beautiful', that template is `All things that
are "my sister" are all things that are "Alice".
Sophie Johnson
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Despain <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: A simple question?


Jennifer,

1) The commas aren't needed with single word appositives:  "My sister Alice
was beautiful."
2) Quotes inside quotes are ranked.  Usually we have  a single quote mark if
we are quoting the material around it with double quote marks.
3) I have seen where a linguist, who uses the single quote marks to speak of
a word, per se, will keep the mark within the comma.  Normally the mark will
include the comma, especially where multiple words are involved.
Scientists, who tend to be more logical, often resist custom and insist on
following logic in this regard.

Bruce

>>> [log in to unmask] 07/26/01 01:42PM >>>
Hello one and all,

I have a question.  Is the placement of commas inside the quotation marks
correct in this sentence:  "The sculpture,"Discus Thrower," was beautiful to
behold."  That is, are commas always inside quotations?

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