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Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:43:53 -0700
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The Evidence for Policy and Practice Information and Co-ordinating
Centre (EPPI-Centre), http://eppi.ioe.ac.uk/cms/ , affiliated with the
University of London, has done some interesting work on this issue.
Have any of you read these reports?  I found them pretty convincing.

http://eppi.ioe.ac.uk/cms/Default.aspx?tabid=229

http://eppi.ioe.ac.uk/cms/Default.aspx?tabid=231

Janet Castilleja
Heritage University
-----Original Message-----
From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ronald Sheen
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:50 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [BULK] Re: From the esoteric`to the exoteric was Re: Functional
grammar definition
Importance: Low

The point that Robert makes concerning the inability some students have
in 
learning about grammar and then applying it, raises a fundamental
problem 
which partly explains the advocacy of the abolition of the teaching of 
grammar.   However, what the advocates failed to do was to demonstrate 
empirically that such learners were able to learn more by means of 
exposure - and, I might add, never have done.  And then, of course, the 
abolition of grammar teaching unnecessarily penalised those who could 
benefit therefrom..

As to the so-called colleague who 'publicly' corrected  Robert's
grammar, 
what can one say about such egregious behaviour.  Typical I'm afraid of 
pretentiously pedantic 'pedagogues'..

Ron Sheen.

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