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"Veit, Richard" <[log in to unmask]>
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Bruce,

You describe "eleven" in "eleven miles" as an "adverbial noun ...
modifying miles." When cardinal numbers modify nouns, aren't they
quantifiers and hence determiners? For example:
        many miles
        several miles
        few miles
        eleven miles
Or are you calling all quantifiers "adverbials"?

Dick Veit
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-----Original Message-----
From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bruce D. Despain
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:48 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: what kind of phrase

Michael,

In my grammar I take it as a non-restrictive adverbial (of place)
modification to Laodicea.  Without ellipsis the noun phrase would read:
"Laodicea, (which is) about eleven miles (far) away (from it)."  This
makes
_from_ (relation) the head, with the adverb (direction) _away_ modifying
it,
which in turn has the adverb (distance) _far_ modifying it, which in
turn
has the adverbial noun (extent) _miles_ modifying it, and then the
adverbial
noun (number) _eleven_ modifying _miles_ (many varieties of adverbs!).
However, the idiom _away from_ seems to be moving in the direction of a
prepositional phrase modifying _away_.  If you can't live with ellipsis,
then perhaps you will have to have some of these basic syntactic
functions
taken over by the parts that do appear. Maybe _miles_ would then take
over
as the head with _away_ modifying it, or prossibly better vice versa.
They
are both adverbial with very similar meaning, one being simply more
specific
than the other.

I hope this helps.

Bruce

----- Original Message -----
From: "R. Michael Medley (GLS)" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:52 PM
Subject: what kind of phrase


> In the sentence:
>
> "Colosse has never been either rebuilt or excavated, unlike its
neighbor
> Laodicea, about eleven miles away."
>
> What kind of phrase is "about eleven miles away"?  I realize it is
> performing an adverbial function, but what is the head word of the
phrase?
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice.
>
>
> R. Michael Medley, Director
> Intensive English Program
> Eastern Mennonite University, Harrisonburg, VA 22802
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