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Re: Instruction versus learning
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Peter Adams <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:31:31 -0500
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Now, Janet and Kathleen, what are we to make of this?  Each of you  
asserts your view quite confidently.  I'm wondering if there is some  
test, some definition, that can lead one to recognize a "reduced  
relative clause" when one sees one.  Alternatively, what is to  
prevent us from simply declaring all post position adjectives as  
reduced relative clauses?  What do we gain by calling such  
constructions reduced relative clauses"  What do we lose if we, as I  
am inclined to do, simply call them adjectives?

Peter Adams

On Nov 18, 2007, at 5:31 PM, Castilleja, Janet wrote:

> Hi
>
> It is a reduced relative clause.  The pre-reduction sentence is
> 'A healthy meal which is available at many fast-food restaurants is  
> a salad with low-fat dressing.'  Reduced clauses of various types  
> are quite common.
>
> Janet Castilleja
> Heritage University
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar on behalf of  
> Peter Adams
> Sent: Sat 11/17/2007 7:00 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Instruction versus learning
>
>
> I agree with Kathleen, but some of my colleagues are arguing that  
> it is a reduced relative clause. Does anyone agree with them?
>
> Peter
>
> On Nov 17, 2007, at 12:03 AM, Kathleen M. Ward wrote:
>
>
>     I think that it's just an adjective phrase, modified with a  
> prepositional phrase.  Adjective phrases that are postmodified  
> follow the noun rather than preceding it.  There are lots of examples.
>
>     Kathleen Ward
>     UC Davis
>
>     On Nov 16, 2007, at 8:52 PM, Peter Adams wrote:
>
>
>         Could someone help me analyze this sentence:
>
>
>
>         A healthy meal available at many fast-food restaurants is a  
> salad with low-fat dressing.
>
>
>         What is the underlined phrase?
>
>
>         Thanks.
>
>
>         Peter Adams
>
>
>
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