In response to my own question to Bob about Scandinavian languages and
phrasal verbs,. I've just come across an article about the difficulties for
L2 learners to learn how to use Swedish phrasal verbs. They appear to be
very similar to those encountered by ESL students. It also has the same
opposition between PVs and prepositional verbs. The one difference is that
it seems (note the caution) that they tend (even more caution) only to have
figurative meanings and not the concrete meanings that we have such as
'He picked up the piece of paper.'
This seems really odd given that our figurative PVs develop from original
concrete meaning PVs. ie Pick up a girl in a bar. from Pick up a piece of
paper.
Are there any Scandinavian language speakers on the List who can help on
this.
The lesson for me: given the thousands of world languages and my knowledge
of only two or three of them, NEVER venture an opinion, no matter how
cautiously, about the thousands you know nothing about.
Ron Sheen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Yates" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: Reasons for teaching PVs in the ESL context.
Christine,
German (English is a Germanic language) is filled with phrasal verbs. I
assume this is true for all the Germanic languages: Danish, Swedish,
Icelandic, Norwegian.
Bob Yates, University of Central Missouri
>>> Ronald Sheen <[log in to unmask]> 10/14/07 11:41 PM >>>
Hi Christine,
I am not aware of any. No, French does not have any. One does, however,
find some forms of French in Canada, particularly New Brunswick, which
combine a French verb such as 'venir' with 'back'.
Do you teach ESL to francophones? If so where? And if so, how do you
handle faux amis?
Bye, Ron.
.
----- Original Message -----
From: Christine Reintjes
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Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Reasons for teaching PVs in the ESL context.
Ron,
Are there any other languages besides English that have phrasal verbs? Is
it possible that French has one or a few? I'm trying to think of one, but
I'm realizing they are all prepositional verbs.
--
Christine Reintjes Martin
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