Phil,
   I agree, but I think we need to make it clear that our agreement is
essentially that we will use these terms to mean these things, and that
the distinctions are important.
   I think the semi-colon is a natural tool to show a simultaneous
connection and independence between clauses, like those in your
"however" example. (I'm just as glad you didn't use the semi-colon;
some grammar books talk as though it is the right way to do it.) And I
have no problem with starting with the role of the semi-colon and then
coming up with examples that seem effective.
  In an effective text, no sentences function independently of each other.
From there, we can see lots of ways in which the connections are built
and made manifest.
  These are important problems precisely because they are at the
conjunction of syntax and discourse. If sentences are to do the work of
discourse, then we need to look at how.
  Following most handbooks won't get us very far.

Craig


   Their independence is what determines that they are adverbs and not
> conjunctions.  A conjunction requires two clauses an adverb can sit
> with john.   John dates Mary although she is leaving town.
> Subordinate conjunction   John likes Mary but she is leaving town.
>                  Coordinate conjunction   John likes Mary.  However,
> she is leaving town.           Conjunctive adverb   This is not just a
> punctuation convention but a recognition of the fundamental difference
> between an adverb that carries this sort of meaning (consequence,
> negative consequenec, conjunction, etc) and the conjunctions that do.
>   Phil Bralich
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Adams
> Sent: Sep 10, 2006 2:08 PM
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> Subject: Conjunctive Adverbs
>
> Everyone seems to agree, even Martha Kolln and the Cambridge Grammar, that
> conjunctive adverbs are, indeed, conjunctions.  I still don't see why they
> are not just considered adverbs.  Does anyone see it my way?
>
>
>
> Peter Adams
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