Without getting into the nature of "be", which I don't think is the problem anyway, I'm uncomfortable with this analysis. Would you--and Martha--do the same thing with "upstairs" in "We found/sent the children upstairs", where it is clearly an object complement? SC and OC are essentially the same thing, the latter occurring with a transitive verb. Why treat them differently because the major category type (NP vs. AdvP) is different? They are different structures, but functionally they are the same thing, and that's what RK is about, function, more than structure.
Herb
Herb:
(Slavishly) following Martha, I would call "away" a required adverb of time and place (ADV/TP) in her Pattern 1 sentence (NP be ADV/TP) and put it under the verb were in the diagram -- just as Martha diagrams "The students are upstairs" with "upstairs" under are. I'll leave it to advanced theorists to explain how this "be" differs from a linking "be."
Mike
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From: Stahlke, Herbert F.W.
Reply To: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 12:38 PM
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Subject: Re: diagramming question
Michael,
I'm getting back into RK diagrams in order to use them this summer with an undergrad class. Leaving the "when" out, since we don't have a main clause, I'd do the rest of the clause like this. Email doesn't let me underline or put words on a diagonal.
we | were \ away
\ \
still distance
\
some
"some distance away" is an adverb phrase serving as subject complement. "still" modifies "were", and I agree with you on "some" and "distance".
Herb
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From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar on behalf of Kischner, Michael
Sent: Tue 2/10/2004 3:08 PM
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It seems to me that away modifies were; distance modifies away; and some modifies distance.
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From: Dawn Burnette
Reply To: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 6:23 AM
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Subject: diagramming question
A teacher in my department came to me this morning for help diagramming this clause from a Fitzgerald sentence: when we were still some distance away. What should she do with distance?
Dawn
Fay Sweney wrote:
Whoops! Looks like a draft email was accidentally sent. English teachers in my school district are currently evaluating curriculum. One step is to identify the complexity of what we expect kids to learn. We are in disagreement about this. Using Bloom's taxonomy, how would you classify the complexity of questions like those below-- Comprehension? Application? Analysis? And why? 1. Is the underlined word in the following sentence a preposition? The dog ran across the street. 2. Which of the following sentences contains a prepositional phrase? a. The cowboys rode their horses. b. The cowboys gave the horses a drink. c. The cowboys rode their horses into the sunset. My book was found under a fluffy pillow.3. The word pillow functions as a. an adjective b. a noun c. a preposition d. a pronoun 4. What is the structure of this sentence? a. simple b. compound c. complex Fay Sweney
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