thanks David
i'm happy to honor them both
xx
cris
On Apr 22, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Schloss, David Mr. wrote:
> Meghan has spoken about every poet and poem with considerable critical consideration and detail; Jonny has spoken sparingly but considerately, with some regularity. He is a generous, affable presence; Meghan is less shy, more serious, interested in more thorough close analysis. Jonny's poetry is part of series of works around a town, Meghan's poems are more various, a few in a ghost series, some in prose-poetry, some in lyric forms. I think he's more ambitious/accomplished in his work, but she is very adept on the level of considered phrasing, music, syntax; somewhat less so on larger intentions. Her participation is the most in the class. Jonny and Meghan are among the most sophisticated stylists, his purposefulness more clear and developed. They could be considered close to equal, taking all elements into account, actually. Jonny s more laid back and gentle; Meghan is much more assertive.
>
> Does this answer your question?
>
> I'd be content for either to "win," but sharing a prize would be fair, too. If it had to be one, it would be a matter of taste. Marginally, Jonny for the greater ambition and personal style in his poetry, I guess.
>
> David
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Miami University Creative Writing Faculty [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of cris cheek [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 1:28 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Undergraduate Creative Writing Awards
>
> I'm keen to hear from David about how Meghan and Jonny have been in the grad workshop this passing semester and how they have been with the incoming students.
>
>
> cris
>
>
> On Apr 22, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Tuma, Keith W. wrote:
>
>> I say we split the grad poetry award between Jonny and Meg, calling them
>> co-winner, and give them a gift certificate to SPD. I'll kick in some money
>> too. 50 each?
>>
>> I can live with Cody as the undergrad winner in poetry.
>>
>>
>> On 4/22/11 12:12 PM, "ERIC GOODMAN" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> If the money is to flow in the standard way (as the rest of the awards
>>> will), I don't think it can be gift certificates.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/22/11 12:09 PM, "Wagner, Cathy" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would support either giving Jonny the award or splitting it between Jonny
>>>> and Meg.
>>>>
>>>> It might be a nice thing to give the winners gift certificates to SPD Books
>>>> instead of a check.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Schloss, David Mr." <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sender: Miami University Creative Writing Faculty
>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 12:06:51
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Reply-To: Miami University Creative Writing Faculty
>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Subject: Re: Undergraduate Creative Writing Awards
>>>>
>>>> Since there are only two 2nd year grad poets this year, the choice is
>>>> simpler.
>>>> I think Jonny is the more ambitious and stylistically accomplished poet, but
>>>> I'd like to commend Meghan Prichard's work as well. She's come a long way, as
>>>> a controlled stylist at least, and has turned into a diligent and cogent (if
>>>> sometimes somewhat subjective) critic. I'd go with Jonny, but there's much to
>>>> be said on Meghan's behalf as well.
>>>>
>>>> To amplify on undergrads: Kellie Nadler is the more traditionally lyric poet,
>>>> but Cody is more expansive and deeply witty. He has a high critical
>>>> intelligence as well.
>>>> There may be others I haven't taught recently...
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Miami University Creative Writing Faculty [[log in to unmask]]
>>>> On Behalf Of Goodman, Eric [[log in to unmask]]
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 11:57 AM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: Undergraduate Creative Writing Awards
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely will award the money. Brian and Margaret, are you out there?
>>>> Please weigh in on both undergrad and grad fiction people.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/22/11 11:44 AM, "Cheek, Christopher F. Dr." <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ok. I can do that. Provided that we are clear to award the money and i am
>>>>> not
>>>>> giving money into a general fund ;=)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> cris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 22, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Goodman, Eric wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a generous offer and on behalf of the grad students, I applaud
>>>>>> you. I don't think they've ever gotten more than $100 each for that award,
>>>>>> by the way. We began giving it out because there was the undergraduate
>>>>>> Havighurst, and only discovered after some years that the Havighurst was
>>>>>> undergrad only, and then began years of my cajoling money from successive
>>>>>> chairs to pay for the Outstanding Grad student.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The way to make the money available is to give Rachel a check made out
>>>>>> to the Alumni Fund, which means the department can spend it however it
>>>>>> chooses. If you do it that way, you'll be able to deduct it on your taxes
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> a charitable contribution, if you're so inclined.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And so, now we need the outstanding grad award nominees, always given to
>>>>>> a second year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way, the Graduate Writing Awards, judged by David, were awarded
>>>>>> as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fiction Winner: Matt Weinkam ($200)
>>>>>> Fiction Honorable Mention: Michelle Lawrence ($50)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Poetry Winner: Tasha Golden ($200)
>>>>>> Poetry Honorable Mention: Alla V ($50)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've asked Matt and Tasha to give brief readings and the end of awards
>>>>>> this coming Wednesday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/22/11 10:02 AM, "Cheek, Christopher F. Dr." <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> all good . and sorry to rush away last night btw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i hope the poker went well
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i agree about giving the graduate awards anyway and would suggest Jonny
>>>>>>> Lohr
>>>>>>> for poetry?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i'm prepared to give $100 each, for both fiction and poetry so that they
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> least get something
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and i don't know Cody but like Kelly and either is okay with me (Leyla
>>>>>>> Boss??)
>>>>>>> . and like Kate and Alex both a lot in fiction
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Tuma, Keith W. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree that Cody Ziler should be on the list of poets to vote on--he was
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> my 330 in the fall and did impressive work there. Kelly Nadler is also
>>>>>>>> deserving and should also be on the list. Either one would be fine by me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/22/11 9:27 AM, "Cathy Wagner" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Should we give the Grad Awards anyway, even though there's no money?
>>>>>>>>> Cathy
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Schloss, David Mr." <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> Sender: Miami University Creative Writing Faculty
>>>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 08:45:11
>>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Miami University Creative Writing Faculty
>>>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Undergraduate Creative Writing Awards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In poetry: Cody Ziler is taking 651 with me this semester, and he is
>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>> impressive.
>>>>>>>>> We might also add Max Bruno to the fiction list?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> From: Miami University Creative Writing Faculty
>>>>>>>>> [[log in to unmask]]
>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Goodman, Eric [[log in to unmask]]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 8:18 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Undergraduate Creative Writing Awards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just yesterday, I remembered that we had neglected to decide on the
>>>>>>>>> Walter Havighurst undergraduate writing awards. Therešs one in
>>>>>>>>> fiction,
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> in poetry. This is an award for seniors, and wešve generally used it
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> honor the most likely to succeed/most valuable member of the program.
>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>> need to decide on it no later than Monday, and it seems to me that we
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> it on-line. I suggest we do this in two steps, 1) listing students we
>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>> worthy of consideration by genre 2) voting on that list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In fiction, Išd like to mention, in an unranked order: Kate
>>>>>>>>> Segraves,
>>>>>>>>> Sara Rubenstein, Jarrett Shedd, Alex Dannemiller, Steven Hoffman.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In poetry (Išve only taught him in screenwriting): Cody Ziler.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By the way, although there will be graduate writing awards (funded by
>>>>>>>>> Frank Jordanšs generosity), there will be no Outstanding Graduate
>>>>>>>>> Student
>>>>>>>>> awards this year, since that money has had to come out of the Alumni
>>>>>>>>> fund,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> Kerry was loathe to part with any of it this year.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>
>>
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