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Dr. Keeler,

  For the Windows X-server, we are suggesting Cygwin/X - it has the big
advantage that it is free.  The Exceed product from Hummingbird is very
nice, but expensive - I don't know if they have educational discounts, but
for regular purchase, it is several hundred dollars.

  When using Cygwin, you need to start it, and then do "startx &" to start
it's X-server.  Then connect to the cluster using either PuTTY or OpenSSH -
both of these have a configuration setting that you check to turn on SSH
tunneling.  The knowledge base articles Jaime mentions should explain this -
if they aren't clear, let me know and I'll re-write them to make it clearer.

  I just tried xstata using PuTTY/Cygwin/X and didn't have any problems - if
you are still having trouble, let us know and we can investigate further.

Dave


David Woods, Ph.D
Senior Research Computing Support Specialist
354 Gaskill Hall
Miami University
(513) 529-1857
http://www.muohio.edu/researchcomputing

-----Original Message-----
From: Research Computing Support [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Dennis Keeler
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:03 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: HPC interface issues

On Apr 23, 2006, at 12:30 AM, Robin wrote:

> Dr. Keeler,
>
>> 1. After I first requested my account via the web, I could not  
>> login  via ssh without X11. My connection was always "reset by  
>> peer." After  I had logged in once via X11 and "ssh -X", I could  
>> then login via ssh  without X11.
>>
>> FYI, I didn't wait the 10 minutes to try to login, so perhaps it  
>> is  just coincidence that logging in finally "took" when I tried  
>> ssh -X.  But I do know my password was registering, because I  
>> would be told to  try again if I intentionally mistyped my password.
>
> Yes. It's a coincidence. We cron a job every 10 minutes to fetch  
> login information from the website.
> The error message was expected when you authenticated succesfully  
> but not yet authorized.

Oops. Sorry for my impatience.

>
>> 2. Via X11 in Mac OS X 10.4.6, I cannot get Matlab to draw  
>> properly.  Only the upper left corner is drawn, about 1 inch down  
>> and 2 inches  across (I can see the first 3 letters of the Windows  
>> menu title).  Reaction to clicking on a menu title is very slow also.
>
>    I've seen the X weirdly misbehaving when using Mac. We may have  
> to file a bug report to Matlab on this one.
>    All my other X-Apps,  tunnel under SSH, draws perfectly fine.

ssh -Y on my Mac fixed the problem with Matlab and xstata. I would  
suggest the Quick Tutorial page mention that X11 connections should  
be made in this manner.

>> 3. Via both Mac X11 and Cygwin/X, the application xstata crashes  
>> as  soon as I click on a menu title. The program quits with the  
>> error:
>>
>> Gdk-ERROR **: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
>>   serial 2002 error_code 3 request_code 38 minor_code 0
>> Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
>>   serial 2003 error_code 10 request_code 102 minor_code 0
>
>    When using Mac, please use the ssh -Y (rather than X). '-Y'  
> enables Trusted X11 Forwarding.
>      Not sure which SSH client you have when using Windows.
>    Start Cygwin X Server. If you use Putty, under 'Connection' ->  
> SSH -> Tunnels:
>          * Check 'Enable X11 Forwarding'
>    Which SSH client do you have for Windows ?

I had installed Cygwin, X11, and OpenSSH on a lab machine to test X11  
from Windows XP. So I was opening a bash shell terminal window and  
typing "ssh -X ..." I'll try "ssh -Y ..." the next time I have a  
chance. I did not know that Putty had X11 forwarding.

What X Server do you recommend for MS Windows? I suppose if anyone is  
savvy enough to use the HPC, they are savvy enough to install Cygwin/ 
X. I've seen mention of Hummingbird eXceed, but don't know if we have  
a license.

Thanks. -Dennis

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