To R. Reis, I read the latest installment of your views on the state of English instruction with great interest. I also teach logic/logical fallacies and propaganda techniques as a part of my English curriculum. Your communique will figure large in future classes. Thank you, Gretchen in San Jose (who thanks all for the forbearance they have shown for allowing the discussion to wander into diverse avenues not immediately pertinent to grammar) [log in to unmask] To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/