Bob Yates does not respond to Robert Reis's actual literacy statistics. If those statistics are true, how did so many people become literate without a public school system? And does the current education establishment have anything to do with the resistance to grammar that many of us have experienced? True, Robert Reis's posting does not contain any grammar tips. But members of this listserve do need to be aware that grammar has somehow become a political issue, strangely enough. ----------------------------------------------------- Sincerely, Robert Einarsson please visit me at www.artsci.gmcc.ab.ca/people/einarssonb To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/