This would be a most interesting discussion if we could get it going on another list. It would be particularly interesting if we could get a discussion going on this with just teachers. If others are interested I could set up a list on egroups or something. Cordially, S. Barret Dolph Headmaster White Horse English Development Center Taipei Taiwan Paul E. Doniger wrote: > I won't comment on Mr. Reis's rather skewed vision of the state of literacy > in the U.S.A. Rather, I would like to suggest that "the resistance to > grammar" that we meet from our students is not very different from their > resistance to poetry, reading of any kind, algebra, geography, or chemistry. > It might be worth our while to consider the larger issues, rather than blame > public education for the apparent failings of modern society. It seems to me > that our students' real issues are linked more with the materialism of the > 1980s in which they were born, as well as with their seemingly insatiable > need to be entertained (how often to we hear them complain that x, y, or z > is boring?)! > > Any takers? > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Einarsson <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:28 PM > Subject: Re: politics of grammar > > > >> Bob Yates does not respond to Robert Reis's actual literacy >> statistics. If those statistics are true, how did so many people >> become literate without a public school system? And does the >> current education establishment have anything to do with the >> resistance to grammar that many of us have experienced? >> >> True, Robert Reis's posting does not contain any grammar tips. >> But members of this listserve do need to be aware that grammar >> has somehow become a political issue, strangely enough. >> >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> Sincerely, Robert Einarsson >> please visit me at >> www.artsci.gmcc.ab.ca/people/einarssonb >> >> To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface > > at: > >> http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html >> and select "Join or leave the list" >> >> Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ >> > > > To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: > http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html > and select "Join or leave the list" > > Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/