At 09:17 AM 2/15/01 -0500, you wrote: >>>> Geoff, Useful treatment you seem to do. I'm wondering what text you use to back up your approach. To be honest, I don't use a textbook. What I've done is collect as many grammatical forms as possible and put them into my little sentence creation package. I start students with the most simple declarative sentences (i.e., "The baby cried."), present them with the tools in the package, and then ask them to use the tools to answer the most basic questions of that the language requires of writers - namely, "who, what, why, where, when, and how." Obviously, this doesn't cover the entire scope of linguistic possibilties, but it does seem to encourage critical thinking and good writing. To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/