I am currently working on a research project about the effectiveness (or ineffectiveness)of traditional grammar in the classroom for my masters. I have followed this list for some time and I am familiar with the controversies of this topic. What has surprised me is the dearth of quantative research on the subject. There are plenty of journal articles on the theory, but I have been uable to locate many articles detailing actual research. I know it has to be there. I was hoping readers of this list might know of specific authors or journal arcticles. Thanks for your time. Russell Shelley Old Dominion University Norfolk, VA To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/