Indeed they did, Reinhold! But they also knew the conservative bent of Pennsylvania's legislature--and that polyandric professors were unlikely to be teaching at Penn State! Martha >Did none of your students ever speculate that you might indulge in >polyandric relationships? <grin> > >==Reinhold > >Martha Kolln wrote: >> >> The restictive/nonrestrictive example I used in my classes was >> >> My husband, John, is a farmer. >> My son John is a student. >> >> I would ask my students why I punctuated them differently; and I would ask >> what they knew about the size of my family. It's also a lesson about >> intonation. The first has three intonation contours; the second, only one. >> >> Martha Kolln >> >> >Bruce, >> > >> >I'm afraid I must disagree with your #1 comment below. Whether the >> >appositive is one word or more than one word is not the issue. The issue is >> >whether the appositive is necessary. My usual way to teach this is to ask >> >who has one brother (or sister) and who has more than one. I then write out >> >the two variations: >> > >> >My brother Charlie lives in Chicago. >> >My brother, Charlie, lives in Chicago. >> > >> >One of the best examples I know of is this: Beethoven's opera, Fidelio, is >> >magnificent. >> > >> >(Why can't I do italics in Outlook Express???) >> > >> > >> >-- >> >Keeper of the memory and method of Francis Christensen. >> >WriteforCollege.com >> >The Stewart English Program (epsbooks.com) >> >> From: Bruce Despain <[log in to unmask]> >> >> Reply-To: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar >> >> <[log in to unmask]> >> >> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:05:40 -0600 >> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> Subject: Re: A simple question? >> >> >> >> Jennifer, >> >> >> >> 1) The commas aren't needed with single word appositives: "My sister >>Alice >> >> was beautiful." >> >> 2) Quotes inside quotes are ranked. Usually we have a single quote mark >>if >> >> we are quoting the material around it with double quote marks. >> >> 3) I have seen where a linguist, who uses the single quote marks to speak >>of >> >>a >> >> word, per se, will keep the mark within the comma. Normally the mark will >> >> include the comma, especially where multiple words are involved. >>Scientists, >> >> who tend to be more logical, often resist custom and insist on following >> >>logic >> >> in this regard. >> >> >> >> Bruce >> >> >> >>>>> [log in to unmask] 07/26/01 01:42PM >>> >> >> Hello one and all, >> >> >> >> I have a question. Is the placement of commas inside the quotation marks >> >> correct in this sentence: "The sculpture,"Discus Thrower," was beautiful >>to >> >> behold." That is, are commas always inside quotations? >> >> >> >> To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface >> >>at: >> >> http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html >> >> and select "Join or leave the list" >> >> >> >> Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ >> >> >> >> To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface >> >>at: >> >> http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html >> >> and select "Join or leave the list" >> >> >> >> Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ >> > >> >To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface >>at: >> > http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html >> >and select "Join or leave the list" >> > >> >Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ >> >> To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface >>at: >> http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html >> and select "Join or leave the list" >> >> Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ > >To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: > http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html >and select "Join or leave the list" > >Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/