Happy New Year, listers. A retired colleague and friend called and asked me to weigh in on the following grammar question, which someone had posed to him: In the following sentence, is "before" a preposition, in which case the pronoun should be in the objective case? "The Smiths received their invitation before us." Or, is "before" a subordinating conjunction launching a clause with an elliptical verb, in which case the pronoun should be in the nominative case? "The Smiths received their invitation before we [did]." My first response was to vote for the latter choice, even though I cannot imagine ever using "we" in that sentence without also saying/writing the verb. Unlike the second clause of the sentence "She is three inches taller than I," the clause starting with "before" sounds really wrong without the verb plainly in sight (or earshot). We concluded that it probably sounds wrong precisely because "before" can be a preposition or a subordinator, whereas "than" can serve only in the latter role. We debated whether we could really say, though, that one choice was right and one wrong-or even that one choice was better than the other. We also considered the notion that "before," when used as a preposition, isn't really logical in front of an object referring to people because it is not logical to speak of time ("sooner than") in relation to people. That is, "before noon," "before Tuesday," and "before next week" all make sense because those objects are all time designations. But is it logical to refer to time by saying "before [person/people]"? (Of course, we can use "before" to mean "in front of," but that is a different sense completely: "She gave the speech before a crowd of six thousand.") The next day, my colleague called back to tell me that he did some Web surfing and discovered a number of pages arguing that only "than" and "as" can have an elliptical verb. Is that so? I know that we use those two to point out a common pronoun error associated with their use, but are they the only two? I suppose that a little creative avoidance is in order here! Either of these sentences would avoid the problem: "The Smiths received their invitation sooner than we did." "The Smiths received their invitation before we did." I told him that I knew JUST the place to go with this issue, and I will forward your insights to him! Thanks for your thoughts, Nancy Nancy L. Tuten, PhD Professor of English Director of the Writing-across-the-Curriculum Program Columbia College Columbia, South Carolina [log in to unmask] 803-786-3706 To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/