Re: Question about modal verbs
Hi Jed,

The verb-expansion rule that I teach, thanks to Chomsky, looks like this, where MV stands for "main verb" and the parentheses mean "optional"; the only two requirements are Tense and Verb:

        MV = T + (M) + (have + -en) + (be + -ing) + V

This rule describes your comment that the first element in the verb string carries the tense (i.e., is the "finite" verb).

An alternate version of this formula has a different opening slot:  a choice of T or M.  That choice is not optional.  In other words, a verb string has either tense or modal, not both.  The tense then, present or past, would apply to either the have or the be or the verb, depending on what comes next. For this version, the list of modals includes can, could, will, would, etc. without a present or past designation.

So if there's a "rule" somewhere that says a sentence always has a finite verb and that  a finite verb always carries tense, then this alternate version of the verb-expansion rule is simply not accurate.  In practice, however, it works.  Both versions work.

My way of getting around the problem (if, indeed, it is a problem) is to avoid using the term "finite verb."  I simply refer to the verb phrase slot in the sentence patterns as the "predicating verb"--as opposed to nonfinite verbs, those used as adverbials, adjectivals, and nominals.

Martha



Hi all,
   I have another question that has come out of some recent class discussions. Perhaps someone can help me out.
   My question is this: are modal verbs finite (carrying grammatical tense) even though they are not inflected or marked in any way to show that tense? Do syntacticians (sp?) consider the tense to be there (perhaps marked with some kind of abstract zero morpheme) even though we can't see it? I've always read (and it makes sense with most examples) that the first verb in a verb string is the finite one, and since modals appear first in the verb string (or in my Southern grammar, appear first, second, or even third in a string of modals) then they must be finite!?
   Thanks for any help you can offer on this -- I've checked several references only to get very ambiguous answers.
Jed


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John (Jed) E. Dews
Instructor, Undergraduate Linguistics
MA-TESOL/Applied Linguistics Program
Educator, Secondary English Language Arts
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University of Alabama
 
               

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