"Also: Can we give students a theoretical structure in which to hang grammar as they learn it? If so, what seems to work best, in your experience?" Here is an interesting article by Peter Kratzke, who provides us with a theoretical approach: http://rapidintellect.com/AEQweb/dec2273.htm His contention is that grammar and punctuation can be best understood by mastering four basic principles: (1) A functional sense of the parts of speech, (2) The integrity of the clause, (3) Ellipsis, and (4) Restriction. Ben Varner University of Northern Colorado To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/