Thanks, Herb. And there's more: http://www.amazon.com/s/102-6810170-2775324?ie=UTF8&index=books&rank=-relevance%2C%2Bavailability%2C-daterank&field-author-exact=Talmy%20Givon Peace, David  --- On Wed 08/30, Stahlke, Herbert F.W. < [log in to unmask] > wrote:From: Stahlke, Herbert F.W. [mailto: [log in to unmask]]To: [log in to unmask]: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:37:18 -0400Subject: Re: Grammar CertificationDabro,I purposely avoided that question. _Running through the Tall Grass_, bythe way, is also a wonderful 1997 novel by a superb linguist, TalmyGivon, which you can get incredibly cheaply from Amazon.Herb-----Original Message-----From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of dabroSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 12:31 PMTo: [log in to unmask]: Re: Grammar CertificationHerb, Who was "running through the tall grass"? Peace, David --- OnWed 08/30, Stahlke, Herbert F.W. < [log in to unmask] 
> wrote:From:Stahlke, Herbert F.W. [mailto: [log in to unmask]]To:[log in to unmask]: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:21:20 -0400Subject:Re: Grammar CertificationYour example raises the question of what shouldbe on such a test, whichgets us right back to the question of what agrammar curriculum shouldcover. The guard saw the escapee runningthrough the tall grass."Running through the tall grass" here can beeither an adjective clauseor an object complement, although I find theOC interpretation moreobvious. If I front the participial phrase,Running through the tall grass, the guard saw the escapee, it becomesadverbial. But we're still back to the question of what people shouldknow if theyare to know grammar.Herb-----Original Message-----From:Assembly for the Teaching of EnglishGrammar[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's webinterface at:http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.htmland select "Join or 
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