John:

You wrote : "I am interested Dabro in which
elements of your TESOL focussed on the teaching of grammar and what kind
of grammar - traditional grammar, linguistic grammar or what?"

Perhaps, my situation is different than that of many prospective teachers today. In the first place, I was 61 years old (I'm now 76) when I returned to school, after having worked for 30 years as an actor and radio announcer, so I attended elementary (grammar) school in the 1930s and high school in the 1940s.

A grammar course, using Martha Kolln's Understanding English Grammar was a requirement for my AA in English Language and Literature. I was then introduced to phrase structure and transformational-generative grammar in a syntax class that was required for my BA in English Language and Composition. My comment, at the time was, "How can this be used in teaching English? My students won't understand it any better than I do." As an undergraduate student I minored in Spanish.One of the texts used was Terrell and de Gargill's Linguistica Applicada. I may have learned more about English grammar in that course than in any of my English grammar courses. I studied Discourse Analysis as both an undergraduate and a graduate student, and I believe that helped in understanding communicative (descriptive) grammar .

I have the Celce-Murcia/Larsen-Freeman text that Dr. Rubba recommends, but I rarely use it. Instead, I've found Betty Azar's Understanding and Using English Grammar to be more practical--as a reference and in the classoom.

There's more than one way to skin a cat. I hope this helps.

Peace,

David Brown








--- On Wed 08/30, =?windows-1252?Q?John_Curran?= < [log in to unmask] > wrote:

From: =?windows-1252?Q?John_Curran?= [mailto: [log in to unmask]]
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:20:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Grammar Certification

Helene and Dabro,
Re TESOL - I have almost finished a Masters in TESOL but am disappointed
in the practical applications of the course for a practicing teacher.
Although semantics and sociolinguistics are interesting they are of little
help to the housewives in Yokohama. Of course I realise that these studies
give us many insights into the language. I am interested Dabro in which
elements of your TESOL focussed on the teaching of grammar and what kind
of grammar - traditional grammar, linguistic grammar or what?
John






--- On Wed 08/30, =?windows-1252?Q?John_Curran?= < [log in to unmask] > wrote:
From: =?windows-1252?Q?John_Curran?= [mailto: [log in to unmask]]
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:20:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Grammar Certification

Helene and Dabro,
Re TESOL - I have almost finished a Masters in TESOL but am disappointed
in the practical applications of the course for a practicing teacher.
Although semantics and sociolinguistics are interesting they are of little
help to the housewives in Yokohama. Of course I realise that these studies
give us many insights into the language. I am interested Dabro in which
elements of your TESOL focussed on the teaching of grammar and what kind
of grammar - traditional grammar, linguistic grammar or what?
John

To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at:
http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html
and select "Join or leave the list"

Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/

No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.
Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list"

Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/