The problem is that unless it's a subject matter course - i.e., something called "Grammar" - then a certified teacher isn't required. Any old English teacher will do, unlike, for example, a course called "Journalism" or "Reading" or "Drama" where there can be certification required in the content area. And with respect to the SAT/ACT, there really aren't any grammar questions per se. >But this would also be valuable in such as situation as the certified >teacher may be the one allowed to offer a small course or be called on to >teach in courses that may include grammar within them. Certainly the new >SAT will have some affect in this area, especially if the grammar scores >are low. > >Phil Bralich > >-----Original Message----- > >From: "Stahlke, Herbert F.W." <[log in to unmask]> > >Sent: Sep 3, 2006 1:41 PM > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: Grammar Carts and Horses > > > >Well put, Geoffrey. I agree completely. > > > >Herb > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar on behalf of Geoffrey >Layton > >Sent: Sun 9/3/2006 3:33 PM > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: Grammar Carts and Horses > > > >I admit I have not kept careful track of all the posts in this thread, >and > >I'm guessing that my current contribution will probably be off-topic. > >However, regarding the specific title of the thread - namely, grammar > >certification - it seems that discussing the possibility of establishing >a > >certification in grammar is dependent on having courses in grammar, and >the > >schools in the Chicago area have nothing even approaching grammar >courses. > >For example, certifications in areas such as journalism, drama, radio-tv, > >etc. all have courses connected with them. In other words, the > >certification cart must follow the curriculum horse. > > > >Geoff Layton > > > >To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web >interface at: > > http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html > >and select "Join or leave the list" > > > >Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ > > > >To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web >interface at: > > http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html > >and select "Join or leave the list" > > > >Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ > >To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface >at: > http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html >and select "Join or leave the list" > >Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/