True, Craig. The  scope is limited, and there is no mention of sequence. I look forward to the finished? ATEG statement. Peace, David      --- On Wed 09/06, Craig Hancock < [log in to unmask] > wrote:From: Craig Hancock [mailto: [log in to unmask]]To: [log in to unmask]: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:58:50 -0400Subject: Re: NCTEThere is much to admire about the statement, but it does fall short ofcalling for a systematic teaching of grammar as part of the curriculum.So I would ask the authors whether they did so out of conviction or outof the constraint of writing a position that NCTE would accept. NCTEmay be softening on that position, but they have opposed scope andsequence in the past. One reason for constructing a scope and sequenceunder our own umbrella is that we would not need to water anythingdown.Craig>Indeed! David--- On Wed 09/06, Stahlke, Herbert F.W. <> [log in to unmask] > wrote:From: Stahlke, Herbert F.W. [mailto:> 
[log in to unmask]]To: [log in to unmask]: Wed, 6 Sep 2006> 14:06:09 -0400Subject: Re: NCTE>> v:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}o:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}w:*> {behavior:url(#default#VML);}.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}>> st1:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }>>>>> David,>> Thanks for the link. It’s quite a good statement, notsurprising when one> looks at the authors, Brock Haussamen with Paul Doniger,Pam Dykstra,> Martha Kolln, Kathryn Rogers, and Rebecca Wheeler.>> Herb>>>>> From: Assembly for the Teaching of English> Grammar[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On BehalfOf dabroSent: Wednesday,> September 06,2006 1:54 PMTo: [log in to unmask]: NCTE>>>>> I am learning from the many authoritative posts here, but in the thread> that's been so active recently, no one has referred to NCTE's current> position statement concerning> 
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