Bill, et all, Of course, we can also make the welkin dance (indeed), Thy hounds can make the welkin anwer them / And fetch shrill echoes from the hollow earth, and sometimes hideous echoes make the welkin howl. I suppose this thread has effected a response from me among others, but whether that usage of 'effect' as a verb is acceptable by all is out of my welkin entirely! );--} Paul D. ----- Original Message ---- From: "Spruiell, William C" <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:12:29 PM Subject: Re: Comments? Peter, I have seen the expression “effect a cure” in connection to medicine before, and I’m fairly sure I’ve seen “effect an escape” in regards to a jailbreak. The verb is of quite limited usage, but it’s not quite as set a collocation as things like “wreak havoc” or “make the welkin ring.” -- Bill Spruiell From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Adams Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:45 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Comments? Am I right that "effect" as a verb almost always takes "change" as an object? Other than a change, what else can one effect? Peter Adams To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/