Craig wrote: Rob, I think one of your final sentences holds the key for me: > "But if we are to believe that we can foster an appreciation for literature and composition, we should also believe that we can foster an appreciation for language and how it works." I can only add my agreement to this. I also have a wry sense that on this list we are "preaching to one another's choirs." Still - I think our love of learning positively impacts students, and while I admit that not everyone will enjoy manipulating units of language in the same ways we do, at the very least the passion we have will show. I tend to get my students laughing with me at my "language geek" tendencies, which then makes them feel more relaxed when I start in with meaning and how moving a comma can really change the world. -patty To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/