The point that Robert makes concerning the inability some students have in learning about grammar and then applying it, raises a fundamental problem which partly explains the advocacy of the abolition of the teaching of grammar. However, what the advocates failed to do was to demonstrate empirically that such learners were able to learn more by means of exposure - and, I might add, never have done. And then, of course, the abolition of grammar teaching unnecessarily penalised those who could benefit therefrom.. As to the so-called colleague who 'publicly' corrected Robert's grammar, what can one say about such egregious behaviour. Typical I'm afraid of pretentiously pedantic 'pedagogues'.. Ron Sheen. To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/