Johanna writes: > I haven't been following this discussion, so I don't know the context of > the argument that one shouldn't explain or one shouldn't group > more-proficient with less-proficient students. In fact, there was no discussion to follow. There was Scott's post and my response. As to IQ, I used it simply as short-hand for those more capable of engaging in rule problem solving. I do not think that we should allow ourselves to lose the thread by getting embroiled in the racial IQ argument. This said, however, I have no problem with the possibility, for example, that the Chinese and Japanese have proven to be more capable than Caucasians on a number of IQ-related tests. Just as the extreme feminists were wrong to pillory anyone who suggested that men and women might have different genetic dispositions***, it is wrong to label anyone as racist who 'dares' to raise the possibility that all racial groups are NOT equally capable in, for example, doing certain types of tasks requiring abstract thinking. In fact, given the evolutionary disposition of all species and sub-species and sub-sub-species etc for change, wouldn't it be extremely surprising if racial groups and sub-groups etc had not manifested some sort of differential change. Ron Sheen ***By the way, I have recently found myself involved in social discussions with women (and that includes my wife and three daughters) who are quite (heatedly) convinced that women are better at multi-tasking than men. . So heated, in fact, as to doubt the fact that I regularly watch TV, practise the guitar and play speed (admittedly ten minute blitz) chess at the same time. It's also of interest that in the memory Olympics (memorising, for example, a deck of cards in less than 30 seconds), men have always dominated. To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/