Or, have everyone think for a while individually and write down his/her proposed "rule" (no blurting!). After a reasonable interval, I would go around the class and check or make suggestions. This way, all must think; they cannot sit back and let the quick, aggressive ones do it for them. For example, my classes had fun discovering a spelling principle when I would write the following on the board: refer + ing = referring refer + ence = reference occur + ing = occurring occur + ence = occurrence After most "got" it, we'd think of other examples. Like marvel + ous = marvelous. Much more active a process for students than if I just said, "Now learn this." Jane Saral (retired, hence the past tense) Atlanta On 9/24/07, Johanna Rubba <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Inductive approach to finding the subject of a sentence: > > Create a tag to go with the sentence, then use the pronoun in the tag > to "erase" or replace the appropriate portion of the base sentence. > > For example: > > The students chosen to compete in the spelling bee will take a bus to > New York City tomorrow. > Add tag: The students chosen to compete in the spelling bee will take > a bus to New York City tomorrow, won't they? > [The students chosen to compete in the spelling bee] They will take a > bus to New York City tomorrow. > > This is a problem-solving approach, as it gives the student a > procedure to apply to data in order to find a solution (identifying > the subject of the sentence.) The student proceeds by constructing a > tag, then using the pronoun in the tag to find the subject of the > base sentence. It's very important that this exercise is for native > speakers, who do not need to consult conscious knowledge to construct > the tag; this is done in milliseconds and without deliberation. The > "erasure" procedure is, however, done explicitly, with the check of > the result relying on native-speaker intuition. > > There are many such tricks, for tasks ranging from deciding what is a > complete sentence, to deciding between 'who' and 'whom', to > identifying participles vs. gerunds (among verbs ending in '-ing'. No > explicit knowledge of grammar is needed to apply these tests; they > are tools for making one's subconscious knowledge of grammar explicit > and learning terminology and analysis skills to do so. > > Deductive approach: > > The subject of a sentence is the noun phrase that would be replaced > with a pronoun in a tag added to the sentence. > > To my mind, this would reverse the procedure: The student would look > for the subject of the sentence, then create a tag, making sure that > the pronoun in the tag agreed with the subject. The choice of pronoun > would not be intuitive, but explicitly thought through. > > Maybe this is bogus, but this is my understanding. To give an example > from my German classes: I would present students with paired > sentences, and ask them to discover a rule, in this case, verb > placeement in subordinate clauses. > > Peter war heute nicht in der Klasse. Er ist krank. (Peter wasn't in > class today. He is sick.) > Peter war heute nicht in der Klasse, weil er krank ist. (Peter wasn't > in class today, because he is sick.) > > Ich lernte in der Bibliothek. Nachdem bin ich schwimmengegangen. (I > studied in the library. Afterwards, I went swimming.) > Ich bin schwimmengegangen, nachdem ich in der Bibliothek lernte. (I > went swimming after I studied in the library.) > > Students would notice that the verb "moves" to the end when a > sentence becomes a subordinate clause. This is the rule. > > A deductive approach would be to state the rule: In German > subordinate clauses, the tensed verb occurs at the end of the clause. > Then I would present the sentence pairs in order to demonstrate the > rule. No action except paying attention and copying the rule is > necessary here. To me, that's boring, dry, external to the learner, > and not engaging. > > To me, the first way of presenting things just seems naturally more > interesting and engaging. The students' own discovery of the rule is > what, to me, gives the oomph necessary to retain the rule better than > in the deductive method. The student might remember the experience of > discovery more keenly than the dry presentation of the rule -- the > accustomed way of learning language rules, which so many students > find deadly boring. > > In my experience of learning folk dances and drum rhythm sequences, I > retain patterns better once I discover whatever logic they have -- > logic that is difficult for a teacher to point out unless s/he is > quite talented. But this kind of learning involves motor skills, > which, if Oliver Sacks is correct in citing and claiming in a recent > New Yorker article, are stored elsewhere in the brain than factual > knowledge (the procedural/factual difference). Perhaps I find > inductive learning more interesting because it does draw on > procedural skills, while deductive learning depends on memorizing > factual statements, and applying them afterwards. Maybe the > difference is not all that significant. But I truly believe inductive > presentations are more engaging. I take care of the poor problem- > solvers by providing a deductive statement as a kind of review. > Perhaps this puts them at a disadvantage, but I usually have the > inductive work done in groups, so weaker students can observe the > stronger ones and still see what the answer is; they can also try the > procedure quietly on their own paper and not be punished or > embarrassed if they fail. > > > Dr. Johanna Rubba, Associate Professor, Linguistics > Linguistics Minor Advisor > English Department > California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo > E-mail: [log in to unmask] > Tel.: 805.756.2184 > Dept. Ofc. Tel.: 805.756.2596 > Dept. 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